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Old 12-10-2012, 03:44 PM  
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You scared?

Any of you guys worried this year marks the beginning of another seriously dry spell for Chiefs football? I can easily see them blowing for another decade based on this horrific tenure by Pioli. Am I just paranoid or is this a legitimate fear? I don't want to become a casual fan who watches 3 games a year.

Anybody have any reason for optimism in 2013 and 2014? I know high first round draft picks are reason for optimism but the bust rate for quarterbacks is higher than defensive linemen and we all know how we've fared selecting early defensive linemen.

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Old 12-10-2012, 04:10 PM   #46
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I am at a point where any optimism I have must be earned and then maintained by the Chiefs. My spirit is about crushed here.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:10 PM   #47
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I agree. Why is it like that?

Why is the organization at every single level inept?

Why has it been inept for 20 or so years?

I don't ****ing know the answer to any of this because it isn't obvious to me. People who have had success in other places have come here and fallen flat on their faces. What is it about the organization the Hunt family has built in Kansas City that brings failure.
Because they haven't figured out what everybody else knows.

That Quarterback is BY FAR the most important aspect to a NFL team.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:11 PM   #48
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I am at a point where any optimism I have must be earned and then maintained by the Chiefs. My spirit is about crushed here.
Yep. I really don't care anymore.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:11 PM   #49
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It isn't the Hunts fault. The people the Hunts hired to do their jobs did their jobs terribly. /Clayton

Lamar and Clark aren't the same guy. Sorry.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:11 PM   #50
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Because they haven't figured out what everybody else knows.

That Quarterback is BY FAR the most important aspect to a NFL team.
They had the best offense in the whole league for a while...

Of course they couldn't have that without having the worst defense at the same time. Another failure.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:12 PM   #51
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Well that makes me feel better.
It was his FIRST HIRE. He made a mistake.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:12 PM   #52
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Lamar and Clark aren't the same guy. Sorry.
I don't disagree with that but I am not convinced they will not get the same results.

And I don't know why anyone else would.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:13 PM   #53
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Any of you guys worried this year marks the beginning of a seriously dry spell for Chiefs football? I can easily see them blowing for a decade based on this horrific tenure by Pioli. Am I just paranoid or is this a legitimate fear? I don't want to become a casual fan who watches 3 games a year.

Anybody have any reason for optimism in 2013 and 2014? I know high first round draft picks are reason for optimism but the bust rate for quarterbacks is higher than defensive linemen and we all know how we've fared selecting early defensive linemen.
I think many of the core of this team is going to leave via free agency to get away from the memory of their friend killing himself and another...
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:13 PM   #54
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Another dry spell??? I barely remember ever getting a little bit of water sprayed on us.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:13 PM   #55
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:14 PM   #56
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I don't disagree with that but I am not convinced they will not get the same results.

And I don't know why anyone else would.
I don't know why anyone else wouldn't.

Basically the first thing Clark did when he took control of the team was get rid of Carl Peterson and hire the biggest name GM he could find.

That GM turned out to be a turd but the effort was there.

In the end, why is there a need to pass judgement at all, good or bad? Just wait and see what happens before jumping to conclusions.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:15 PM   #57
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It was his FIRST HIRE. He made a mistake.
Sucks to be us right?
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:16 PM   #58
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I don't know why anyone else wouldn't.

Basically the first thing Clark did when he took control of the team was get rid of Carl Peterson and hire the biggest name GM he could find.

That GM turned out to be a turd but the effort was there.

In the end, why is there a need to pass judgement at all, good or bad? Just wait and see what happens before jumping to conclusions.
How long should I wait Parker.

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Old 12-10-2012, 04:16 PM   #59
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My worry is sort of the same but sort of different in that I am concerned that Clark Hunt is unable to create a culture of winning with his organization.
It's almost harder to be this bad than it is to be mediocre in the NFL... it takes a special kind of incompetence to pull off something like the Rams' three 14+ loss seasons in 4 years. A team can win a conference at 9-7 or worse without beating anyone special and even win a playoff game.

I think the hope to not be completely terrible is always there... and it would be fun to watch a first round QB, whether it turned out like the Colts, Redskins, or even the Panthers. Even the Panthers are competitive pretty much every week and will surprise people from time to time.

So yeah, I'm not all that concerned about how long they'll be absolutely terrible.. I'm more concerned about taking the next step once they're simply mediocre, and being able to build on it so it's not just a one year thing.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:22 PM   #60
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The culture of a business (especially a pro sports business) starts at the top and permeates every single level. It is so important.
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