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Any of you guys worried this year marks the beginning of another seriously dry spell for Chiefs football? I can easily see them blowing for another decade based on this horrific tenure by Pioli. Am I just paranoid or is this a legitimate fear? I don't want to become a casual fan who watches 3 games a year.

Anybody have any reason for optimism in 2013 and 2014? I know high first round draft picks are reason for optimism but the bust rate for quarterbacks is higher than defensive linemen and we all know how we've fared selecting early defensive linemen.

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Is it posts like this you were referring to when talking about the adults talking football?

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:37 PM   #273
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I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

/off soapbox.

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:43 PM   #274
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Is it posts like this you were referring to when talking about the adults talking football?

You were posting your retarded soccer shit.

That is more idiotic than anything I've ever posted.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:46 PM   #275
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I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:51 PM   #276
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I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

/off soapbox.
Yet I can't stop. I am pathetic.
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I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

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Eesh. Not sure about that. 732,761 when to see the Seattle Sounders in 2012 over the course of 17 games. How many people saw this team last year?
it is, the best talent in the world does not play in the USA. They play in Europe. If your a great great player, your ass is in europe playing. Where are the best players in the world playing? Europe. MLS is basically the minors.


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I still stand by my statement. I dont want to dog on the sport. i respect the hell out of soccer players. Im kind of dogging on the US league cause its not really the best of the best.
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I'd day the dry spell started under Herm's 2nd year. Which maybe is good cause that means we are 5 years into our suckage.

Geno or not, I still say we are 3 years away from being legit, although with the amount of suckage sauce in the AFC West we could still easily compete for the division next year if CHunt makes the right moves.
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Even though KC has a past record of keeping GMs way too long even though they suck major ass, I don't think the media in today's world will let them get away with it this time and going forward. SOC, local media, and even nationally, the proof is in the pudding. It is all a product of todays world of social networking, being plugged into the news cycle 24/7, and everyone leaning on the internet for anonymous opinions.

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I'd day the dry spell started under Herm's 2nd year. Which maybe is good cause that means we are 5 years into our suckage.

Geno or not, I still say we are 3 years away from being legit, although with the amount of suckage sauce in the AFC West we could still easily compete for the division next year if CHunt makes the right moves.
with Herm, i expected to suck for 2 reasons. Herm's not a great coach, and i knew going into his 2nd year that this team was building from the ground up. I was ok with it, it was time to do it. The team got old. Then we did what this team is known for, not getting a ****ing decent qb . With Pioli, i was like ok, we been rebuilding this team has some young players to work with and well year 4, we are possibly worse.

You just cannot keep your job when your franchise gets blown out by the Cleveland Browns!!!!!!!!! We have taken over the factory of sadness. Browns at least have something nice to work with and are on the up and up. Well kinda. lol
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I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

/off soapbox.
I agree with a lot of what you say here, but the frenzied atmosphere at Arrowhead was built in the 90s, not the late 60s. Not drafting a QB in the first round didn't prevent that. Nor did the failure to field a complete team or only getting close once.
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