Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 21

duncan_idaho · 01:33 PM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

The 2013 season is closer than we realize. The Royals will feature a rebuilt rotation that likely includes 4 new starters. The most-watched prospects of 2012, Wil Myers and Jake Odorizzi are gone, the price required to rebuild the rotation.

The Royals still have Sal Perz, who has even more of a "star" look to him than a year ago. They still have Alcides Escobar, who was a little less SS jesus in 2012 but brought more at the plate. Billy Butler finally hit a number of home runs that matches his build and how hard he hits the ball. Alex Gordon did it again. Hosmer and Moose struggled.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?
2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
5) Who regresses?
6) Who plays 2B?
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?

duncan_idaho · 12-13-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

I like to think this just means that James Shields has learned some things over the course of his career that bode well for his future.

Basically, yes. Learning something/adjusting/change in approach all mean the same thing.

He went from being primarily a 4-seam, two-seam fastball guy who mixed in changeups to being a guy who throws his 4-seam fastball and changeup at nearly identical rates, and uses his breaking pitches much more than previously.

jbwm89 · 12-13-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Basically, yes. Learning something/adjusting/change in approach all mean the same thing.

He went from being primarily a 4-seam, two-seam fastball guy who mixed in changeups to being a guy who throws his 4-seam fastball and changeup at nearly identical rates, and uses his breaking pitches much more than previously.

Exactly, he changed his approach. Sometimes pitchers have terrible statistics their first few seasons before figuring it out, that is still weighted in the career ERA. I don't think there is a more useless stat than career era if it isn't weighted towards what the pitcher has done recently.

Greinke: 3.77 Career ERA
Shields: 3.89 Career ERA
Dickey: 3.98 Career ERA

**RockChalk** · 12-13-2012, 02:42 PM

If Rany was the baseball savant he carries himself to be, he'd be in an MLB Front Office right now. Not treating people's skin.

Don't get me wrong...I'm sure he's a great Dermatologist, but given his obsession with baseball, you know he'd kill to be working in the bigs. If MLB people respected his opinions, he would have been offered a position at some point along the way.

alnorth · 12-13-2012, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

If Rany was the baseball savant he carries himself to be, he'd be in an MLB Front Office right now. Not treating people's skin.

Don't get me wrong...I'm sure he's a great Dermatologist, but given his obsession with baseball, you know he'd kill to be working in the bigs. If MLB people respected his opinions, he would have been offered a position at some point along the way.

His day job pays a hell of a lot more than some faceless analyst role. His opinions would become proprietary trade secret, he'd have to go dark and offer his insights and opinions to the public a lot less. With his blog, he's a lot more high-profile and well-known than he would be working for anyone.

jbwm89 · 12-13-2012, 02:46 PM

I don't have any problems with Rany, guy just gives his honest opinion and its an educated one. He is just another blogger though, people treat his blogs like the baseball bible. Just because the team and Rany don't agree doesn't mean we are screwed.

**DeezNutz** · 12-13-2012, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbwm89

I don't have any problems with Rany, guy just gives his honest opinion and its an educated one. He is just another blogger though, people treat his blogs like the baseball bible. Just because the team and Rany don't agree doesn't mean we are screwed.

Not accurate.

jbwm89 · 12-13-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Not accurate.

I meant he isn't a club official or something, he obviously has more background than a lot of bloggers. Doesn't change the fact that he writes a baseball blog about his opinions, and he isn't infallible. We shouldn't beat him up when he is wrong or freak out when the team and him don't agree on something.

Cephalic Trauma · 12-13-2012, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

His day job pays a hell of a lot more than some faceless analyst role. His opinions would become proprietary trade secret, he'd have to go dark and offer his insights and opinions to the public a lot less. With his blog, he's a lot more high-profile and well-known than he would be working for anyone.

This. Derm in a big city like Chicago is second only to plastics in LA in terms of desirability in his profession.

He can see tons of patients, prescribe expensive medications (or inexpensive, doesn't matter because of sheer volume), perform expensive procedures, etc etc and not have to spend too much time with pts.

Derm is $$$$. That's why it's extremely hard to get into.

ChiefsandO'sfan · 12-13-2012, 03:43 PM

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Cubs in serious discussions with Anibal Sanchez. Deal could be 5 years/$75 million. #Tigers still a threat.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale
Breaking: The Chicago #Cubs have just signed Anibal Sanchez.

**Shogun** · 12-13-2012, 03:44 PM

Glad hes out of the division

**DeezNutz** · 12-13-2012, 03:44 PM

5 for 90 would have done it for the Royals. No chance he turns down that kind of coin.

mr. tegu · 12-13-2012, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Cubs in serious discussions with Anibal Sanchez. Deal could be 5 years/$75 million. #Tigers still a threat.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale
Breaking: The Chicago #Cubs have just signed Anibal Sanchez.

Suck it Tigers!

**Shogun** · 12-13-2012, 03:53 PM

And the rangers window.............back................GONE

O.city · 12-13-2012, 03:55 PM

The Hamilton deal made me think of something. When Trouts deal comes up, are they going to be able to resign him?

Maybe thats who Glass plans on putting in RF in a year or two?

**Shogun** · 12-13-2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

The Hamilton deal made me think of something. When Trouts deal comes up, are they going to be able to resign him?

Maybe thats who Glass plans on putting in RF in a year or two?

This is the Royals were talking about. Far more likely to deal Pujols/Hamilton than Trout if he can keep getting better imho.

12-11-2012, 08:59 AM
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