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Old 12-12-2012, 07:26 AM  
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Obamacare just raised your health care premium by $63

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Old 12-13-2012, 03:30 PM   #91
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:37 PM   #92
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Please point out to me where my facts are garbled.
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I disagree that it supports his statement because I see no need to raise rates to remain profitable when all they are offering is a projected volatility as a reason to do so.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:45 PM   #93
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OK, this part isn't right:
"It's a once-in-a-lifetime change in the healthcare market that will bring a lot of volatility, and we need higher reserves for that," Wagner said.

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Old 12-13-2012, 08:45 PM   #94
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"It's a once-in-a-lifetime change in the healthcare market that will bring a lot of volatility, and we need higher reserves for that," Wagner said.

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I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, ...
This is another example of what he was talking about. The article explains why they want to raise rates and it has nothing to do with carrying higher reserves. They want to raise rates because that segment of their business is operating at a loss.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:55 PM   #95
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This is another example of what he was talking about. The article explains why they want to raise rates and it has nothing to do with carrying higher reserves. They want to raise rates because that segment of their business is operating at a loss.
Dude that quote is from the ceo of the company from the article. Where he says it's about raising reserves.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:02 PM   #96
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Dude that quote is from the ceo of the company from the article. Where he says it's about raising reserves.
Yes, it's the CEO. You're still confused about what he's saying though. The article is clear that beefing up reserves is not related to the rate increase request. Not clear enough for you though, apparently.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:12 PM   #97
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Yes, it's the CEO. You're still confused about what he's saying though. The article is clear that beefing up reserves is not related to the rate increase request. Not clear enough for you though, apparently.
I see no loss, I see the opposite: a profit so excessive that they refund money to customers and hoard the rest under the guise of reserves.
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:21 PM   #98
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I see no loss, I see the opposite: a profit so excessive that they refund money to customers and hoard the rest under the guise of reserves.
Try reading the article. Pay close attention to the words.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:41 AM   #99
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Try reading the article. Pay close attention to the words.
It's no use - he's like a parrot trained by DNC talking points. Capitalism bad. Too much profit, squawk.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:09 AM   #100
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:19 AM   #101
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Angry little liberal, aren't ya? So - your brilliant solution to
Fix an economy with 15%+ real unemployment and rising inflation is to
marginally raise taxes which equate to a pebble of sand on a beach.
That is some excellent math, Mr Puppet.
Speaking of reading comprehension, this is pretty awful. Nowhere does he say that's his "solution to the economy". He advocates it as a solution to the budget deficit.

Surely someone with as much faux sophistication on this topic as yourself understands thathat our structural unemployment trends are the result of more than just what the top marginal rate happens to be?
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:16 AM   #102
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Speaking of reading comprehension, this is pretty awful. Nowhere does he say that's his "solution to the economy". He advocates it as a solution to the budget deficit.

Surely someone with as much faux sophistication on this topic as yourself understands thathat our structural unemployment trends are the result of more than just what the top marginal rate happens to be?
Sweet of you to come to his defense.

Raising taxes on all tax payers is his idea to fix the deficit - ok. That obviously has a direct effect on the economy, which is implied. But, whatever. Watching his Pelosiesque brain function is sad and entertaining and your defense of it/him shows that you enjoy arguing on message boards more than saying anything constructive.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:28 AM   #103
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Sweet of you to come to his defense.

Raising taxes on all tax payers is his idea to fix the deficit - ok. That obviously has a direct effect on the economy, which is implied. But, whatever. Watching his Pelosiesque brain function is sad and entertaining and your defense of it/him shows that you enjoy arguing on message boards more than saying anything constructive.
Except you conveniently overlook the part where I say....it will also take cuts in spending, and reform of entitlement programs to fix this whole mess. Keep talkin' outta your ass, though; that's what we expect.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:29 AM   #104
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Except you conveniently overlook the part where I say....it will also take cuts in spending, and reform of entitlement programs to fix this whole mess. Keep talkin' outta your ass, though; that's what we expect.
You said you would raise rates on all tax brackets. 'Nuff said.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:55 AM   #105
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You said you would raise rates on all tax brackets. 'Nuff said.
Yep. Especially on those who've made out like bandits since 2001 while the rest of society lags far, far behind. Don't be sad though...as you have plenty of tea party types to accompany you on the, "Screw the rest of ya'all, I got mine!" bandwagon.
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