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Old 12-14-2012, 11:09 AM  
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Connecticut school shooting: 18 children among 27 dead

'Close to 20' dead in Connecticut school shooting, source says
Newtown, Connecticut (CNN) -- Nearly 20 people died Friday in an elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

At least 10 of the dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School were children, the source said. At a news conference Friday afternoon, state police Lt. Paul Vance would say only that there had been "several fatalities."

The school was secure, and the public was not in danger, Vance said.

"Why? Why?" one woman wailed as she walked up a wooded roadway leading from the school.

A parent who was inside the school at the time of the attack said she heard what sounded like at least 100 rounds being fired. She said she saw two school employees who had died.

'I hope my mom is ok': Tweets from the Connecticut school shooting

Hospital officials in neighboring Danbury said they were treating three people wounded in the shooting. Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton said the victims were in "very serious" condition.

The shooter is dead, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti. The suspect's body is in a classroom at the school, the source said.

A law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said a male was being questioned but he is not being called a suspect.

Federal officers in tactical gear were on the scene, coordinating with local and state police. At least four ambulances remained at the school Friday afternoon.

Police have recovered two weapons from the suspect, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, the source said. It's unclear if police killed the suspect.

'It doesn't seem possible' -- parents shocked by school shooting

Police and teachers rushed students from the building as police swarmed the area shortly after the first calls came in, around 9:40 a.m. ET. Officials moved students to a nearby firehouse, where parents frantically sought information about their children.

Third-grader Alexis Wasik said police and teachers barged into her classroom and told students to hide in the corner.

"Everybody was crying," she said. "And I just heard the police officers yelling."

Aerial images from CNN affiliate News 12 New Jersey showed police officers armed with rifles following a dog into woods near the school.

Other officers, some in tactical gear, stood around the school with guns drawn, CNN affiliate WFSB reported.

All schools in the city were on lockdown Friday as police assessed the situation, Vance said.

Gov. Dan Malloy is "horrified" by what happened, a spokesman said.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the Obama administration feels "enormous sympathy" for affected families and pledged federal support for state and local law enforcement.

Newtown is about 60 miles north of New York.

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http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=261606

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Old 12-14-2012, 12:49 PM   #181
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I think the teacher is fine. But is the teacher going to have the gun in a lockbox? Around their waist? What concerns me is a kid or group of kids basically attacking the teacher and getting the gun or key.
Well, I suppose that would be up to the school district's policy. I'd prefer seeing it in a biometric gun safe. Easily accessible in the event of an incident, but otherwise completely secured from any student "stealing the key from the teacher" that you proposed. Plus, I would assume the district would make it policy that no children would be told there is a firearm in the classroom and, at the very least, where it is kept.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #182
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Glock, Sig and .223 is the guns I have been hearing them mention
Nothing too crazy as far as guns are concerned.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #183
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This makes me want to move back to the small town where I grew up. Not close to a major urban area. It could still happen there, I know. But it's not nearly as likely.
I believe this is only a town of 20-30,000 people. It's an hour and a half from NYC. That's what's scary about this... it shows this can happen anywhere.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #184
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The same people who want to make it as difficult as possible to vote... with registration and identification requirements, want to make it as easy as possible to own a gun.
People who are going to commit an act like this has absolutely nothing to do with gun control.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #185
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Well, regardless of your former teachers displaying any apparent ability to handle a firearm, it really isn't that hard after about a week's worth of training. And I'd rather Mr. Kotter have a fighting chance against an armed whack job than Mr. Kotter cowering in the corner while the armed mad man walks in throwing bullets towards innocent kindergarteners.
You do realize that the police are like as not to shoot Mr. Kotter if he is waving a gun around? They do not know he is a teacher - i am sure the shooter (in that case) would say he is a teacher. I guarantee you that cops would not want teachers carrying guns around in the school.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #186
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i live in a small town, about 7 years ago a couple kids brought a list of kids they were going to kill to school.


shit can happen anywhere.
The Amish village shooting; the Parkersburg football coach killing.

This isn't confined to cities.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #187
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Did it a while back, I am not going to be at a mall or a restaurant and let some asshole having a bad day determine if my family lives or dies if I can help it.
Yep. If I'm checkin' out, or if my family is about to, I'm going down blazin.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:51 PM   #188
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I have to think there are a lot of teachers that are anti-gun and likely quit before picking up a gun.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:52 PM   #189
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People who are going to commit an act like this has absolutely nothing to do with gun control.
How does the person who committed today's mass shooting, kill the same number of people in the same instant manner without a gun?
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:52 PM   #190
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Well, regardless of your former teachers displaying any apparent ability to handle a firearm, it really isn't that hard after about a week's worth of training. And I'd rather Mr. Kotter have a fighting chance against an armed whack job than Mr. Kotter cowering in the corner while the armed mad man walks in throwing bullets towards innocent kindergarteners.
This debate doesn't interest me. Most school teachers are simply of the type that don't want guns. I know there are exceptions, but I don't understand why every time there is violence certain people think the solution is more guns.

Why doesn't this regularly happen in other western countries?
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:52 PM   #191
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Sounds like the guy is an attention whore, Hell won't be a kind place.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:53 PM   #192
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I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:54 PM   #193
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I understand guns are for the name of self defense, but if you have a gun, I don't care what anybody says, you're tempted to use it.

Something goes off in you, maybe you're having a bad day and your emotions get the best of you, or, you just have rage against people and the world, next thing you know BOOM! Shit happens all the time.

Ban guns. Come on man. We've ****ing had several massacres lately WTF guys? How can some of you not be open to this notion?
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:54 PM   #194
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I have to think there are a lot of teachers that are anti-gun and likely quit before picking up a gun.
Not a forced requirement but paid more as an incentive.

Go look at the majority of killings where 4+ people are taken out at random... They are all places where guns are not allowed... Think about it.

Post OffiCES, Schools, Theaters (with no ccw signs on door) , Malls (with no ccw on door) etc. There is a pattern
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:54 PM   #195
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How does the person who committed today's mass shooting, kill the same number of people in the same instant manner without a gun?
The only people that gun control laws prevent from getting guns are those that aren't criminals.
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