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Old 07-20-2012, 09:50 AM  
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Gun Control

We have all heard about what happened in Aurora, Co, and I think that Gun Control is going to be a huge topic in the following months.


What measures need to be taken? Do you have any ideas that will help prevent this kind of thing from happening again as it pertains to guns?
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:22 AM   #496
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That's involving drug cases. Who gives a shit if they take their guns in that case? Guns have no business along side illegal drugs. You should expect to have some rights removed if you get arrested on drug charges. I don't see how that would affect the common man.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:44 AM   #497
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:53 AM   #498
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there goes my dream of being a coke dealer.
Nah you can still become a coke dealer you just can't become an armed coke dealer.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:12 PM   #499
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:23 AM   #500
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:51 AM   #501
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:35 PM   #502
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If only we afforded our children the right of concealed carry, school shootings might not happen. Forget the guy who could legally purchase bullet proof vests and automatic rifles.
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Just an FYI....and AW ban is already in effect in both New Jersey and Connecticut. Additionally magazines with a capacity > 10 rounds are prohibited in CT and > 15 rounds are prohibited in NJ.

In both places permits are required to own/purchase handguns, while I haven't heard of the CT requirements. The NJ process I've heard is fairly painful, i.e. 6+ months to get a permit, references required and the police call up the references.

Now the question is what impact all of those regulations had on events like this....
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:51 PM   #504
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:56 PM   #505
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Dem Rep. Nadler (D-NY): "NOW is the Time to Discuss Gun Control"
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:58 PM   #506
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Dem Rep. Nadler (D-NY): "NOW is the Time to Discuss Gun Control"
Of course it is, as long as you're in favor of it and don't mind politicizing a bunch of dead kids.
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:58 PM   #507
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What anti-gun people do not understand is banning guns will not solve the problem.

Guns will not just disappear. People who want guns will get them illegally. Just like drugs.

Also, how are you going to go about getting these guns from everyone in the country?

What do you think the repercussions would be?
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:06 PM   #508
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What anti-gun people do not understand is banning guns will not solve the problem.

Guns will not just disappear. People who want guns will get them illegally. Just like drugs.

Also, how are you going to go about getting these guns from everyone in the country?

What do you think the repercussions would be?
You will never get rid of all gun crime, but you can pass laws that severely limit people who have access to them. England and Germany have tough gun laws, but there are still some guns that get through the system. However, deaths related to guns is a fraction to that of the US.

"According to a 2007 Harvard Journal of Law study, the German gun death per 100,000 citizens was 0.91 with less than 9% of German households owning guns. The Center for Disease Control, (CDC), projects U.S. gun fatalities at 14.2 per 100,000. In a 2005 Gallup study, 42% of American households claimed to own one or more firearms."
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What anti-gun people do not understand is banning guns will not solve the problem.

Guns will not just disappear. People who want guns will get them illegally. Just like drugs.

Also, how are you going to go about getting these guns from everyone in the country?

What do you think the repercussions would be?
This is one of the important bits. You can buy a ~2K CNC machine these days and make all the firearms you want. Plus the drug comment is an important one. We can't stop drugs today and you can train dogs to detect drugs. How are you going to train dogs to detect a chunk of steel/aluminum??? No way can you stop the importation of firearm parts illegally and you probably can't even really slow it.
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You will never get rid of all gun crime, but you can pass laws that severely limit people who have access to them. England and Germany have tough gun laws, but there are still some guns that get through the system. However, deaths related to guns is a fraction to that of the US.

"According to a 2007 Harvard Journal of Law study, the German gun death per 100,000 citizens was 0.91 with less than 9% of German households owning guns. The Center for Disease Control, (CDC), projects U.S. gun fatalities at 14.2 per 100,000. In a 2005 Gallup study, 42% of American households claimed to own one or more firearms."
OK fine...then explain this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...89-decade.html

The issue with gun crime isn't the guns...it's the society...we have serious issues and the longer we try to blame the guns instead of society the longer it's going to take to actually fix it.
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