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Old 07-20-2012, 10:50 AM  
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Gun Control

We have all heard about what happened in Aurora, Co, and I think that Gun Control is going to be a huge topic in the following months.


What measures need to be taken? Do you have any ideas that will help prevent this kind of thing from happening again as it pertains to guns?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:01 PM   #541
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I want to add, just so that I'm clear. I'm not in favor of banning guns. I'm just less in favor of letting everyone carry a gun on them all the time. If I had to choose one, it would be the former. But that is only in the event of an either or type of situation.
Atleast 8.5 Million people in America disagree
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:02 PM   #542
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Hey, I found another clueless idiot on CP
Finally looked in a mirror huh.

Honestly, you idiot, would you really want your kids to go to a school where the teachers carried guns in the classroom?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:02 PM   #543
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Guns would be just as popular as they are right now, which is to say wildly popular. Take your own fear out of the subject and think logically.
I think Pot is more popular now than it would be if they would just legalize the shit... (I don't Smoke)
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:03 PM   #544
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Of course it is, as long as you're in favor of it and don't mind politicizing a bunch of dead kids.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:04 PM   #545
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Here's a portion from from the president's speech:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...1d6_story.html

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"As a country, we have been through this too many times. Whether it is an elementary school in Newtown, or a shopping mall in Oregon, or a temple in Wisconsin, or a movie theater in Aurora, or a street corner in Chicago, these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. And we’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics."
Read between the lines. He's going to lead the charge for gun control in the coming weeks and months. He's going to pressure the new Congress to take action.

Also, the U.N. is going to revisit the small arms treaty in March. This is a different way he can go after guns. He only needs the Senate to ratify it. We all know they will pass any kind of anti gun legislation they can get their hands on.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:04 PM   #546
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Finally looked in a mirror huh.

Honestly, you idiot, would you really want your kids to go to a school where the teachers carried guns in the classroom?
Qualified and certified to carry? Hell yes I would... Atleast they would have a fighting chance... Don't give me the bullshit about the crazy teacher, there can just as easily be crazy cops
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:04 PM   #547
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Atleast 8.5 Million people in America disagree
8.5 million people don't carry guns on that at all times.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:04 PM   #548
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8.5 million people don't carry guns on that at all times.
You don't know this....
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:05 PM   #549
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Here's a portion from from the president's speech:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...1d6_story.html



Read between the lines. He's going to lead the charge for gun control in the coming weeks and months. He's going to pressure the new Congress to take action.

Also, the U.N. is going to revisit the small arms treaty in March. This is a different way he can go after guns. He only needs the Senate to ratify it. We all know they will pass any kind of anti gun legislation they can get their hands on.
That asshole was going to do it anyway.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:13 PM   #550
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I'm saying that if someone who is normally prone to rage and fits of anger and displaying those acts in a violent fashion, adding a gun to that situation is only going make it worse.
This has been said many many times before.

NOTHING can stop a nutcase from just flying off the handle and shooting another person.

Is that a reason for more gun control? What about the people that CnC all the time and never committ any crimes? Why should they be punished?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:15 PM   #551
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BTW it appears that this shooting today was done by a 20year old. Which means he already was legally prohibited from owning handguns(in both NJ and CT you'd need a permit to own and they won't give them to under 21). Another case where a control was in place and yet still had no impact.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:18 PM   #552
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BTW it appears that this shooting today was done by a 20year old. Which means he already was legally prohibited from owning handguns(in both NJ and CT you'd need a permit to own and they won't give them to under 21). Another case where a control was in place and yet still had no impact.
One source says he was 24
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:21 PM   #553
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I'm saying that if someone who is normally prone to rage and fits of anger and displaying those acts in a violent fashion, adding a gun to that situation is only going make it worse.
If a person is that prone to violence, then there isn't much to be done. They would be dangerous in any number of situations. Should we deny that person the right to drive? Buy a knife? Should we prevent them from picking up a frying pan? How about prevent them from buying fertilizer to make a bomb?

There's thousands of ways for human violence to present itself. The majority of which are easily accessible. Let's address why that person might be prone to violence instead of trying to tackle the unrealistic problem of removing anything that could be used as a weapon by said crazy person.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:24 PM   #554
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If a person is that prone to violence, then there isn't much to be done. They would be dangerous in any number of situations. Should we deny that person the right to drive? Buy a knife? Should we prevent them from picking up a frying pan? How about prevent them from buying fertilizer to make a bomb?

There's thousands of ways for human violence to present itself. The majority of which are easily accessible. Let's address why that person might be prone to violence instead of trying to tackle the unrealistic problem of removing anything that could be used as a weapon by said crazy person.
What if he took a brick and knocked the window out of a semi and drove it trough a crowd at the time the school let out? Would they be calling for trucks to be banned?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:26 PM   #555
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What if he took a brick and knocked the window out of a semi and drove it trough a crowd at the time the school let out? Would they be calling for trucks to be banned?
Right because that happens all the time.
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