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Old 12-10-2012, 12:41 AM  
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True Meaning of Christmas....

To all you Christians, Have a listen...

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Old 12-14-2012, 02:00 PM   #31
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One of these days you might get it, I'll keep working on you.
Are you going to hold an invisible holy pistol to my head to convert me to your faith? Good luck with that.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:48 PM   #32
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Are you going to hold an invisible holy pistol to my head to convert me to your faith? Good luck with that.
No but the Lord does have a way of bringing everyone to their knees, and at that time generally is when they find the Lord. It's just how we are wired.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:51 PM   #33
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No but the Lord does have a way of bringing everyone to their knees, and at that time generally is when they find the Lord. It's just how we are wired.
The rational mind has a way of determining the best course of action. Fear has a way of perverting that. It's just how we are wired.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:42 PM   #34
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My mind was blown the first time I watched that.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:03 AM   #35
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The rational mind has a way of determining the best course of action. Fear has a way of perverting that. It's just how we are wired.
Like it or not you ARE guided spiritually, I'm well aware we are not automatons. Is that what the rational scientific mind seeks?
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:08 AM   #36
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Yes because humans always make the best decisions without guidance. Where do these values come from? Do Apes exhibit this kind of behavior?
Yeah, actually. Apes are social creatures that exhibit morality and empathy. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find ANY example of an ape killing 20 or so ape toddlers.


That said, they have terrible manners.
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:27 AM   #37
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Like it or not you ARE guided spiritually, I'm well aware we are not automatons. Is that what the rational scientific mind seeks?
What is it you are implying that the rational scientific mind seeks?
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:04 AM   #38
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What is it you are implying that the rational scientific mind seeks?
Human robots who have no spirit?
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Human robots who have no spirit?
You think that rationality can only be achieved by turning yourself into a biological robot?
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:08 AM   #40
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You think that rationality can only be achieved by turning yourself into a biological robot?
No I think that most atheists can't understand spirituality even though they certainly feel it and respond to it without knowing. Get to know yourself, that's all I am asking. I know you don't want to hear it but the Holy Spirit does dwell within all of us at least to a certain point.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:11 AM   #41
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No I think that most atheists can't understand spirituality even though they certainly feel it and respond to it without knowing. Get to know yourself, that's all I am asking. I know you don't want to hear it but the Holy Spirit does dwell within all of us at least to a certain point.
Are you under the impression that I am an atheist?
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:16 AM   #42
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Are you under the impression that I am an atheist?
yes? are you agnostic?
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:21 AM   #43
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yes? are you agnostic?
My religious/spiritual/philosophical/belief system (take your pick) is agnostic Buddhism of the Mahayana tradition. I hesitate to call myself a "Buddhist" because that leads to misunderstanding when trying to explain it. I'm not a Buddhist in the sense that you are a Christian.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:22 AM   #44
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My religious/spiritual/philosophical/belief system (take your pick) is agnostic Buddhism of the Mahayana tradition. I hesitate to call myself a "Buddhist" because that leads to misunderstanding when trying to explain it. I'm not a Buddhist in the sense that you are a Christian.
I stand corrected.
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I stand corrected.
No biggie. I'm currently exploring Zen and have found it helpful.
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