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Old 12-16-2012, 12:04 PM  
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Ban Hammer?

Florida man accused of killing neighbor with a hammer

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THONOTOSASSA, Fla. – A Tampa-Bay area man who authorities say attacked his neighbor with a hammer has been charged with second degree murder with a weapon.
A Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office press release says 28-year-old Jarrett Kyle Brooks was booked into jail late Saturday. It was not immediately known if he has an attorney.
Authorities say Brooks approached Jonathan Acree from behind at a Thonotosassa trailer park, striking him in the head and neck multiple times with a hammer.
Acree was pronounced dead at the hospital.
The sheriff's office SWAT team was called to the home where Brooks was barricaded. Authorities say he surrendered after tear gas was shot into the mobile home. There was no one else in the trailer.
Investigators have not released a motive for the attack.


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Old 12-16-2012, 12:07 PM   #2
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We need some sort of reasonable hammer regulation.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:09 PM   #3
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We need some sort of reasonable hammer regulation.

Yes, maybe a rubber tip on the end or restrict their weight to 3 ounces
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:14 PM   #4
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There's is zero need for having those dangerous looking contoured rubber grips. Tell me why carpenters think they need this type of professional equipment? Don't even get me started on those ones with straight claws....

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Old 12-16-2012, 12:16 PM   #5
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Was Mr. Brooks' neighbor trying to literally eat him? That may explain a lot....
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:20 PM   #6
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There's is zero need for having those dangerous looking contoured rubber grips. Tell me why carpenters think they need this type of professional equipment? Don't even get me started on those ones with straight claws....

I'm a staunch advocate of the second amendment but equating a hammer to assault weapons doesn't do the second amendment any favors, IMO.

This nation's most recent tragedy is, in my opinion, a toxic stew of social issues that we, as a nation, need to confront honestly. The ease with which crazy people can acquire an arsenal of military grade assault weapons is only one of them.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:22 PM   #7
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I'm a staunch advocate of the second amendment but equating a hammer to assault weapons doesn't do the second amendment any favors, IMO.

This nation's most recent tragedy is, in my opinion, a toxic stew of social issues that we, as a nation, need to confront honestly. The ease with which crazy people can build an arsenal of military grade assault weapons is only one of them.
Define Assault Weapon please.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:29 PM   #8
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Complete sledge hammer ban.

Require a license for every hammer owned, and the license is only given when someone reaches 18, after psychological testing by a doctor, and showing expert knowledge how to use it.

The license should be renewed every 2 years, and only one renewal is required for all licences possessed.

If a person with a license commits a crime with a hammer, the doctor that gave the test should have their right to issue the licenses revoked.

People who are convicted felons, have a history of mental disorder or drug or alcohol addiction are banned from owning hammers.

Owning a hammer without the proper license is a felony with automatic prison time.

Have a damn good reason for leaving the house with a hammer.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:30 PM   #9
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Complete sledge hammer ban.

Require a license for every hammer owned, and the license is only given when someone reaches 18, after psychological testing by a doctor, and showing expert knowledge how to use it.

The license should be renewed every 2 years, and only one renewal is required for all licences possessed.

If a person with a license commits a crime with a hammer, the doctor that gave the test should have their right to issue the licenses revoked.

People who are convicted felons, have a history of mental disorder or drug or alcohol addiction are banned from owning hammers.

Owning a hammer without the proper license is a felony with automatic prison time.

Have a damn good reason for leaving the house with a hammer.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:32 PM   #10
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How can you possibly compare hammers to guns
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:34 PM   #11
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Define Assault Weapon please.
Before you go any further, notice that I did not necessarily call for a ban on assault weapons. There are three elements involved in my statement. Crazy people, access, and assault weapons. To do nothing to try to prevent these tragedies is just as irresponsible as those who want to repeal the second amendment.

But for the sake of your argument I'll go with this definition:

"Assault weapon is a political term, often used by gun control advocates, typically referring to firearms ‘designed for rapidly firing at human targets from close range,’ sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat"

As I said, crazy people having access to these type of military weapons is only one aspect of the problem. There are others that need addressed as well. Some people on this board have touched on some of those other issues fairly eloquently already.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:37 PM   #12
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Before you go any further, notice that I did not necessarily call for a ban on assault weapons. There are three elements involved in my statement. Crazy people, access, and assault weapons. To do nothing to try to prevent these tragedies is just as irresponsible as those who want to repeal the second amendment.

But for the sake of your argument I'll go with this definition:

"Assault weapon is a political term, often used by gun control advocates, typically referring to firearms ‘designed for rapidly firing at human targets from close range,’ sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat"

As I said, crazy people having access to these type of military weapons is only one aspect of the problem. There are others that need addressed as well. Some people on this board have touched on some of those other issues fairly eloquently already.
Ok then just tell me what is not supposed to be on a gun and I will tell you if I think it's reasonable.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:39 PM   #13
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penchief I too don't think it is reasonable or feasible for regular citizens to possess automatic weapons without a full FBI background check as well as a extremely expensive license to do so...

Can we agree on this?
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:41 PM   #14
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Complete sledge hammer ban.

Require a license for every hammer owned, and the license is only given when someone reaches 18, after psychological testing by a doctor, and showing expert knowledge how to use it.

The license should be renewed every 2 years, and only one renewal is required for all licences possessed.

If a person with a license commits a crime with a hammer, the doctor that gave the test should have their right to issue the licenses revoked.

People who are convicted felons, have a history of mental disorder or drug or alcohol addiction are banned from owning hammers.

Owning a hammer without the proper license is a felony with automatic prison time.

Have a damn good reason for leaving the house with a hammer.
It is a good start but it does nothing to control other blunt objects. Bats, golf clubs, bricks the list is endless. Much more severe steps need to be taken~
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:44 PM   #15
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How can you possibly compare hammers to guns
I'm an advocate of the second amendment. But if you want to see it survive, there needs to be a responsible approach to this problem or public opinion is going to turn against those who defend it unintelligently through the use of derision and scorn instead of practical solutions.

You will see the same type of backlash that you saw against the republican party's arcane stances against women's reproductive rights. You have to be reasonable. There has to be pragmatic solutions that trump ideological extremism or else you will unwittingly assist in weakening the second amendment.

It will pay those who value the second amendment to think for themselves instead of taking thier ideological talking points from the NRA lobby.
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