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Old 12-18-2012, 12:57 AM  
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Let's Research Fast and Furious (Obama's gun walking scandal)

We don't actually have to do too much research. It's all pretty well already out there and the left doesn't seem to care when it's brown people being shot.

But for those who are finding it in fashion to talk about gun violence, here is the basic run down of this scandal:

"Operation Fast and Furious - A federal operation dubbed Fast and Furious allowed weapons from the U.S. to pass into the hands of suspected gun smugglers so the arms could be traced to the higher echelons of Mexican drug cartels. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the operation, has lost track of hundreds of firearms, many of which have been linked to crimes, including the fatal shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010."

Here is the entire book of coverage that the LA Times put together:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...0.storygallery


Make no mistake, if this was an operation that blew up in the face of a Republican, there would be hearing after hearing and likely even impeachment proceedings. It seems kind of hypocritical that when Obama gets caught presiding over the execution of an operation that sells guns to violent drug smugglers (and the guns get traced to horrific murders that include American agents), nobody cares.

I wouldn't mind so much about the left politically capitalizing on the deaths of these kids if they were consistent in their approach to capitalization. But when we have the commander in Chief who sold the guns to violent drug offenders getting on a memorial stage and declaring that something has to be done or we're all small people - that's a bit much to take.

Edit: Here's the wikipedia link to the Obama Gunwalking Scandal -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:16 PM   #31
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As for executive privilege on the F&F documents, I'm not pretending to know what is in there. But it is not unreasonable, given that is was an undercover criminal investigation, that such information could but current and future covert actions and personnel at risk if it was made public.
If by future covert actions you mean future attempts to circumvent the bill of rights by our government intentionally selling firearms to known criminals so they can use the statistics in propaganda to support their agenda of disarming the American people, then yes, having that information become public would absolutely affect their future attempts at it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:29 PM   #32
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:31 PM   #33
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If by future covert actions you mean future attempts to circumvent the bill of rights by our government intentionally selling firearms to known criminals so they can use the statistics in propaganda to support their agenda of disarming the American people, then yes, having that information become public would absolutely affect their future attempts at it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:42 PM   #34
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:47 PM   #35
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:52 PM   #36
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Imagine if Mexico's government was caught selling semi automatic pistols to Meth cartels in America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven


Do you not agree that something has to be done here?

That's a nice weapon.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:54 PM   #37
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not a weapon, merely a simple tracking device.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:55 PM   #38
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Hah. But seriously, I want one.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:04 PM   #39
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Hah. But seriously, I want one.
Yeah, no shit. I'd never even heard of that before.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:10 PM   #40
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Yeah, no shit. I'd never even heard of that before.
Looks like $800-$1000. The info I am finding on it is that it's a fun gun but expensive to shoot, the rounds are pricey. Doesn't pack a hell of a punch but effective enough, especially considering semi auto with a 20 round magazine. They offer a 10 round magazine if your jurisdiction doesn't allow 20's. I want one but I can't justify dropping a grand on it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:13 PM   #41
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I can't believe that the leading gun researcher around this place hasn't introduced herself to this thread for all the information provided here. Hard to understand that.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:14 PM   #42
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Looks like $800-$1000. The info I am finding on it is that it's a fun gun but expensive to shoot, the rounds are pricey. Doesn't pack a hell of a punch but effective enough, especially considering semi auto with a 20 round magazine. They offer a 10 round magazine if your jurisdiction doesn't allow 20's. I want one but I can't justify dropping a grand on it.
Yea, the ammo price will eat a hole in your pocket. I looked at one about a year ago and decided I didn't want to pay that much to shoot it.
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Looks like $800-$1000. The info I am finding on it is that it's a fun gun but expensive to shoot, the rounds are pricey. Doesn't pack a hell of a punch but effective enough, especially considering semi auto with a 20 round magazine. They offer a 10 round magazine if your jurisdiction doesn't allow 20's. I want one but I can't justify dropping a grand on it.
Yeah, if I'm dropping a grand on a pistol it'll be that STI I've had my eye on.
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I've been wanting a 5.7 for quite a few years now, had a chance to get one for $800 a couple years ago, great cartridge just to damn expensive to feed.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:21 PM   #45
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I've been wanting a 5.7 for quite a few years now, had a chance to get one for $800 a couple years ago, great cartridge just to damn expensive to feed.
Yup. I hesitate to call a gun a toy but that's effectively what it would be.
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