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Old 12-18-2012, 10:52 PM  
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Any Linux users here?

Alright, so I'm an IT student right now and we're working with virtual machines, using windows 7. We're getting into Linux later this quarter, and I have no experience with it. I'd like to set up a VM and tinker with it before we get into class with it. I know this forum is crawling with techies, so I ask you Chiefsplanet, what would be the best version for someone to get their feet wet with Linux?
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:19 PM   #16
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I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows, but could probably get away with a Windows VM, since I hardly use it. It's completely changed my perspective from "it's just the way it is" with Windows to being able to fix pretty much any big or small annoyance. If you're willing to spend the time researching and using those annoyances as opportunities to learn the OS, it's a good way to get your feet wet.

Like others have said though, if you want to start from scratch, I'd pick up a book on RHEL in order to learn command line basics, etc.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:15 PM   #17
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I've never had to use Red Hat (and don't see it happening) but I'm curious. Other than using yum for the package manager are there substantial differences between that and Debian based Linux?
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:23 PM   #18
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I've never had to use Red Hat (and don't see it happening) but I'm curious. Other than using yum for the package manager are there substantial differences between that and Debian based Linux?
RedHat (and Fedora) are both RPM for package management so completely different really from Debian and derivatives (ie. Ubuntu).
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:22 PM   #19
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I generally use CentOS for enterprise stuff.

But if you really want to learn how linux works under the hood, I suggest you do a scratch install of either Arch or Gentoo. You'll hate it, and then you'll love it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:06 AM   #20
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I generally use CentOS for enterprise stuff.

But if you really want to learn how linux works under the hood, I suggest you do a scratch install of either Arch or Gentoo. You'll hate it, and then you'll love it.
Didn't think about that but good advice.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:13 AM   #21
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sounds like i got a lot of work to do. thanks again for the advice everyone.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:25 AM   #22
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Most of our servers at work are running CentOS - and I run Fedora on my work Laptop just to keep the redhat flavor across the board

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Old 02-19-2013, 04:20 PM   #23
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Most of our servers at work are running CentOS - and I run Fedora on my work Laptop just to keep the redhat flavor across the board

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i was browsing and came across your build thread. have you had any problems having the dual boot option? one of my teachers said there had been issues with vista, 7, and 8 "sharing" the computer with linux, just wondering if you had any issues.

I've tried VMs of mint, and fedora, but settled on installing Backtrack 5, which is ubuntu based, and comes with a bunch of security tools. I liked the others, but their GUI made them too much like windows for what i'm trying to do here, and wasn't using them at all. I'm learning as i go with this stuff. anybody got any advice for me regarding backtrack?
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:14 AM   #24
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anybody got any advice for me regarding backtrack?
Look into the training materials from the guys at Offensive Security. I'm a pretty heavy Back|Track user and have gone through their paid course. They also have a free course on metaspoit.

You might want to try to find out when the next SecKC meeting is. Lots of BT fans there...also the local Defcon group and the CCCKC mailing list.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:23 AM   #25
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I started off with Ubuntu. At work though we use SLES, so I switched to OpenSUSE (basically the free version of SLES). Both have a decent GUI if that's what you're into, but I wouldn't say I have a preference towards either one. I basically just have a spare old computer that I run a web/file/print server from within my house, so for what I use it for it really doesn't matter the OS.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:26 PM   #26
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Look into the training materials from the guys at Offensive Security. I'm a pretty heavy Back|Track user and have gone through their paid course. They also have a free course on metaspoit.

You might want to try to find out when the next SecKC meeting is. Lots of BT fans there...also the local Defcon group and the CCCKC mailing list.
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offensive-security will be your best resource. I'd download their Metasploit build if I were you..
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:15 PM   #27
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i was browsing and came across your build thread. have you had any problems having the dual boot option? one of my teachers said there had been issues with vista, 7, and 8 "sharing" the computer with linux, just wondering if you had any issues.

I've tried VMs of mint, and fedora, but settled on installing Backtrack 5, which is ubuntu based, and comes with a bunch of security tools. I liked the others, but their GUI made them too much like windows for what i'm trying to do here, and wasn't using them at all. I'm learning as i go with this stuff. anybody got any advice for me regarding backtrack?
When I moved to Chicago I had to switch to wireless internet for my desktop - well i never bothered to get the wlan adapter to work in linux and I was playing more games on windows anyway - so my desktop has been a windows only box for about a year.
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I have fedora installed on my work laptop as the sole OS with a Windows 7 VM I boot to access exchange / lync

I find BackTrack is almost overkill for my needs
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:01 PM   #28
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I haven't delved into it for years, but get a 64-bit Win7 box, load up Virtual Box, and I'd go with SUSE. Always was my fav distro... but like I said, I haven't done jack with it in years.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:19 AM   #29
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Back|Track is now Kali Linux. Moves from Ubuntu to Debian...which I'm sure for many is a distinction without a difference. I'm downloading the VM now and have the day off. Looks like I may be taking the D out of my wireless DMZ today.

But seriously...if you think it's a good idea to connect to the open AP with the SSID of "Autopwn" you're kind of asking for whatever I'm throwing at you.
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:47 PM   #30
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