Off Season Lets Talk Guns

[HonestChieffan]

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

[Dayze]

I think I'm finally going to order an AR lower. I've gone back and forth about building or buying; think building will be good for me; to learn the ins-outs of an AR since I don't have any experience with them.

Any preferences?...or does it matter for the lower. I'll take my time in figuring out all the guys of it / barrel etc.

[demonhero]

Really don't need to clean the extractor unless you have a ton of carbon buildup on the bolt that you can't simply scrape of with the pin or a fingernail.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Dayze

I think I'm finally going to order an AR lower. I've gone back and forth about building or buying; think building will be good for me; to learn the ins-outs of an AR since I don't have any experience with them.

Any preferences?...or does it matter for the lower. I'll take my time in figuring out all the guys of it / barrel etc.

My opinion of importance:


1. (Tie) Trigger/Barrel

2. Scope/Sights






3. Buttstock
4. Handgrip





5. Everything else


If you have basic tools, build the lower from scratch. You will learn a lot, and it isn't very hard.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by demonhero

Really don't need to clean the extractor unless you a ton of carbon buildup on the bolt that you can't simply scrape of with the pin or a fingernail.

I was thinking more about the inside of the bolt and carrier.


If it isn't sliding smoothly, feeding problems can occur, and they are frustrating as hell.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by notorious

My opinion of importance:


1. (Tie) Trigger/Barrel

2. Scope/Sights






3. Buttstock
4. Handgrip





5. Everything else


If you have basic tools, build the lower from scratch. You will learn a lot, and it isn't very hard.

cool; sounds like my order of importance is about on par with what you have listed.
also, I shoot left handed (left hand on the grip); would I need to put in a left handed upper; or could I just shoot in the regular config? Wasn't sure if I would be getting blassted in the face (NTTAWWT) with expended rounds in the regular config lol

[notorious]

Stag makes left handed rifles, but I have no experience shooting a normal rifle with my left hand so I couldn't tell you the negatives.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by kepp

The last good deal I found was on PMC Bronze from Cabelas. 300 rounds with a dry box for $99. I combined that with a $20 email coupon and picked it up in the KCK store. I ended up paying just over $0.32/round for 600 rounds and two dry boxes. I don't know if its still available, but I found it here: http://www.slickguns.com/

I pulled the trigger on that brand at Cabelas for 600 rounds, but my deal wasn't as sweet as yours. I think 600 rounds were $219 with free shipping, but it's on back order. I may keep looking for more deals and try to pick up another 600 rounds of something.

[A Salt Weapon]

Originally Posted by notorious

How is that possible? I am not being a smartass, I just have not heard this before and would like to learn more.

Mostly damaging the barrel and degrading accuracy, there's quite a few theories out there from reputable sources. Messing up the crown is possible which will affect accuracy. Now with a chrome line barrel this is somewhat mitigated, but each pull of a brush through there is the equivalent of a bunch of rounds.

Also to anyone concerned with first shot accuracy, make sure after cleaning you fire off a round, the first round fired with a clean barrel will have a slightly different POI than the rest.
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[notorious]

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon

Mostly damaging the barrel and degrading accuracy, there's quite a few theories out there from reputable sources. Messing up the crown is possible which will affect accuracy. Now with a chrome line barrel this is somewhat mitigated, but each pull of a brush through there is the equivalent of a bunch of rounds.

Also to anyone concerned with first shot accuracy, make sure after cleaning you fire off a round, the first round fired with a clean barrel will have a slightly different POI than the rest.
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Thanks for the reply.


The only thing I worry about is the rod making contact with the barrel. The brush is softer, so it's impossible for it to damage the barrel.

When I get to rounds 3000-5000 on my .308's we will have a good reference. One barrel is chrome lined and the other is Stainless National Match.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by dred

absolutely!

BTW, have you seen this?

http://www.slickguns.com/product/3-t...-2497-or-lower

They're on backorder, but it still seems like a good price.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by Bwana

I pulled the trigger on that brand at Cabelas for 600 rounds, but my deal wasn't as sweet as yours. I think 600 rounds were $219 with free shipping, but it's on back order. I may keep looking for more deals and try to pick up another 600 rounds of something.

This seems like a decent deal. Not great, but better than anything else I've seen recently.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/pmc...4-after-coupon

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by kepp

This seems like a decent deal. Not great, but better than anything else I've seen recently.

http://www.slickguns.com/product/pmc...4-after-coupon

Yeah I have 600 on back order and have picked up another 400 at local sporting goods stores. 1000 rounds should be enough to raise a little hell with, at least with this gun. I have a lot of other ammo for my other guns as well, likely enough to start a donnybrook with a small country.

[dred]

Originally Posted by kepp

BTW, have you seen this?

http://www.slickguns.com/product/3-t...-2497-or-lower

They're on backorder, but it still seems like a good price.

I found some Magazines last night at Impact Guns. A little pricey, but oh well.

ordered two of the Arsenal AK47 Magazine 7.62x39 30 Rd Bulgarian Mfg

Last night their website said they still had them in stock when I placed the order.... today EVERY big AK Magazine is clearly marked OUT OF STOCK.

keeping my fingers crossed that I got my order in before they sold out.

[Munson]

Just went to my favorite local gun store. Their "assault weapon" section was damn near cleaned out. All the AKs were gone, and only 2 or 3 AR-15s. They usually have about 20 or 30 combined AKs and ARs in stock. They still had plenty of shotguns and semi-auto pistols for the time being.

[kepp]

So I don't own a handgun yet, but I'm seriously considering buying a stock of high capacity magazines to have for when I get one. Does anyone have suggestions on this? I was thinking of getting some Glock 17 round mags because, from what I've read, they will work in numerous Glock models. Thoughts?