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Old 12-20-2012, 07:02 PM  
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Mark Sanchez is as good as Eli Manning

Mark Sanchez vs. Eli Manning Through First 4 Seasons: Stats Matchup Shows Equals

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Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez officially lost his starting job on Tuesday, when head coach Rex Ryan named Greg McElroy the starter for Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers.

On the surface, Ryan's decision would appear to be a slam-dunk choice that was long overdue. Sanchez is coming off a four-interception effort that killed the Jets' season, in a must-win game against the Tennessee Titans on Monday night.

The Jets were eliminated from playoff contention in the 14-10 defeat to the Titans. Adding insult to injury, Sanchez also fumbled away a snap that ended the game deep in Titans territory.

Still, Sanchez needs to be starting for the Jets. Despite suffering through a subpar season, it is only his fourth and he is just 26 years old. When Sanchez is compared to New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning at the same age, they are near mirror images of each other statistically.

Taking a look at Sanchez and Manning through their first four seasons at age 26:

Sanchez: 1,832 passes, 1,011 complete, 55.2, 11,887 yards, 68 TD, 68 INT, 72.0 Rat

Manning: 1,805 passes, 987 complete, 54.7, 11,385 yards, 77 TD, 64 INT, 73.4 Rat


By the numbers, and considering how wildly successful Manning has become since, Ryan is making a gigantic, shortsighted mistake by benching his young franchise quarterback now.

Although Manning won a Super Bowl in his fourth NFL season, his level of quarterbacking is eerily similar to that of Sanchez at the same stage of their careers.

If the Jets surround Sanchez with better receivers, who is to say that his numbers will not keep pace with Manning's or even surpass them? Sanchez actually has the higher completion percentage, with more passing yardage, despite having a poor 2012 season.

In defense of Sanchez's 2012 numbers, he has been without his primary receiver Santonio Holmes for most of the season.

Given that Sanchez is owed $8.25 million in 2013, and the fact that he is maturing at the same rate statistically as Manning had, Ryan should reconsider his decision to change quarterbacks now.

Ryan must do right by the Jets and start Sanchez. His statistics, when compared to Manning's, indicate Sanchez can possibly follow the same road to a successful career if given the opportunity to continue growing as a quarterback.

By the four year statistical sampling: Ryan benching Sanchez would be like if the Giants had chosen to bench the young Manning after a slump.

With two meaningless games remaining on the Jets' schedule, Ryan needs to finish what he started with Sanchez.

That means staying the course with his franchise quarterback, not ripping one-eighth of the season, and valuable development time, away from him.

It may not be the popular choice—but it is the right choice.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:34 PM   #16
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eli is average, his super bowls are a direct result of a great defense. getting hot at the right time also helps a lot too.
the Niner defense knocked the Crap outta Eli in last years NFC Championship game and he kept getting up/fighting back and won the game, IMO thats a real Clutch QB.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:35 PM   #17
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Sanchez is a joke. Forget it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:53 PM   #18
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There is absolutely no comparison of the two... if all you do is go by stats, you don't know what you're talking about. Look at Tony Romo's first 4 years as a starter...

15k yards / 107 TDs / 55 INTs combind mid 60's completion percentage and a rating in the low/mid 90s

How's that working out compared to Eli?
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:55 PM   #19
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eli is average, his super bowls are a direct result of a great defense. getting hot at the right time also helps a lot too.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:56 PM   #20
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I swear to ****ing god if KC gets Sanchez i'll shit! No way. Kid sucks beyond belief. Eli is clutch and can lead his team. He may not put up pretty numbers like Brady. But he's clutch and I'd take that
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:46 PM   #21
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What Eli does during the regular season is not what matters. When he gets to the playoffs and beyond he's a ****ing machine. He wins when it matters most. Has that magic about him. Sanchez couldn't find magic if it kicked him in his retarded ass.
What about if his retarded ass looked in other asses?

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Old 12-20-2012, 09:52 PM   #22
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But Eli knows how to drive a CLUTCH.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:06 PM   #23
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The difference is in watching the games. Eli played well, showed promise, and improvement. Sanchez just flat out sucks and is a downward spiral of suck.

This thread reminds me of the concussed talking heads on ESPN. It amazes me how Dilfer and Young fluff Sanchez, make all the excuses in the world for him, and claim over & over how much he just 'needs help' and a 'real shot' with 'a coach dedicated to him'... but then just blast Tebow. Dilfer needs to recall he was the cog holding back his team during his SB run and Young needs to rewatch tape of his Tampa years till his stutter is gone, then both can .
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:17 PM   #24
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I forwarded this to Clark. He needs to know this kind of stuff, but I don't think he pays really close attention.
That's so dickish.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:31 PM   #25
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by this logic, we already have a future 2 time Superbowl MVP on the roster.
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:43 PM   #26
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Dumb, dumb thread...
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:51 PM   #27
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Yeah, the difference is that Sanchez will probably never really "want" to win.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:16 PM   #28
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I recognize that Eli Manning has talent. However, a reasonable person has to admit that, in addition to starting his career as the quarterback of a very good, overall team, he's been the beneficiary of a tremendous amount of good luck.

2012 might provide insight into the "real" Eli. 20 TDs and 15 INTs to go with his 84 rating.

Although I admit that I am a known critic of all things Manning, I think it's very possible that he's a high average quarterback on a very good, all-around team with good coaching.

I also think that even a quarterback who could consistently deliver in the high 80s or low 90s (as compared to Mark Coswell's 66 rating or Quinn's 64) would have a tremendous, positive effect on the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Old 12-20-2012, 11:36 PM   #29
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Remember our Eli conversation that 3rd year?!

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Mark Sanchez vs. Eli Manning Through First 4 Seasons: Stats Matchup Shows Equals

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the big difference is in how Eli completes the 4-7 passes at the end of the game for his team to WIN...as opposed to throwing an Int and fumbling on back-to-back snaps with your team down by 4 in the 4th.

Other than that, they're exactly the same.
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