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Old 12-20-2012, 08:02 PM  
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Mark Sanchez is as good as Eli Manning

Mark Sanchez vs. Eli Manning Through First 4 Seasons: Stats Matchup Shows Equals

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Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez officially lost his starting job on Tuesday, when head coach Rex Ryan named Greg McElroy the starter for Sunday's game against the San Diego Chargers.

On the surface, Ryan's decision would appear to be a slam-dunk choice that was long overdue. Sanchez is coming off a four-interception effort that killed the Jets' season, in a must-win game against the Tennessee Titans on Monday night.

The Jets were eliminated from playoff contention in the 14-10 defeat to the Titans. Adding insult to injury, Sanchez also fumbled away a snap that ended the game deep in Titans territory.

Still, Sanchez needs to be starting for the Jets. Despite suffering through a subpar season, it is only his fourth and he is just 26 years old. When Sanchez is compared to New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning at the same age, they are near mirror images of each other statistically.

Taking a look at Sanchez and Manning through their first four seasons at age 26:

Sanchez: 1,832 passes, 1,011 complete, 55.2, 11,887 yards, 68 TD, 68 INT, 72.0 Rat

Manning: 1,805 passes, 987 complete, 54.7, 11,385 yards, 77 TD, 64 INT, 73.4 Rat


By the numbers, and considering how wildly successful Manning has become since, Ryan is making a gigantic, shortsighted mistake by benching his young franchise quarterback now.

Although Manning won a Super Bowl in his fourth NFL season, his level of quarterbacking is eerily similar to that of Sanchez at the same stage of their careers.

If the Jets surround Sanchez with better receivers, who is to say that his numbers will not keep pace with Manning's or even surpass them? Sanchez actually has the higher completion percentage, with more passing yardage, despite having a poor 2012 season.

In defense of Sanchez's 2012 numbers, he has been without his primary receiver Santonio Holmes for most of the season.

Given that Sanchez is owed $8.25 million in 2013, and the fact that he is maturing at the same rate statistically as Manning had, Ryan should reconsider his decision to change quarterbacks now.

Ryan must do right by the Jets and start Sanchez. His statistics, when compared to Manning's, indicate Sanchez can possibly follow the same road to a successful career if given the opportunity to continue growing as a quarterback.

By the four year statistical sampling: Ryan benching Sanchez would be like if the Giants had chosen to bench the young Manning after a slump.

With two meaningless games remaining on the Jets' schedule, Ryan needs to finish what he started with Sanchez.

That means staying the course with his franchise quarterback, not ripping one-eighth of the season, and valuable development time, away from him.

It may not be the popular choice—but it is the right choice.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:11 AM   #31
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Eli coasts in the regular season. Sanchez tries his hardest and still ends up running into his teammate's ass and fumbling.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:16 AM   #32
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:26 AM   #33
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I doubt Sanchez wants to come to an AFC west team and get his nose broken TWICE a year by the Raiders.

I wonder if that hot dog tasted different with a broken nose.
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:55 AM   #34
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eli is average, his super bowls are a direct result of a great defense. getting hot at the right time also helps a lot too.
Give me a break. In the two years the Giants won the Super Bowl, in 8 games, Manning threw for 15 TDs and only threw one INT. In the 2011 run, he averaged about 300 yards per game and had about around a 100 QB rating or above in 3 of the 4 games.

And in each of those games, he made absolutely perfect throws deep into the 4th quarter on critical drives.

The fact that anyone would discredit Eli is mind numbing.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:15 AM   #35
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Give me a break. In the two years the Giants won the Super Bowl, in 8 games, Manning threw for 15 TDs and only threw one INT. In the 2011 run, he averaged about 300 yards per game and had about around a 100 QB rating or above in 3 of the 4 games.

And in each of those games, he made absolutely perfect throws deep into the 4th quarter on critical drives.

The fact that anyone would discredit Eli is mind numbing.
This.

Eli is the DEFINITION of "clutch".
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:01 AM   #36
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eli is average, his super bowls are a direct result of a great defense. getting hot at the right time also helps a lot too.
I swear this team has some of the dumbest fans.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:07 AM   #37
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I recognize that Eli Manning has talent. However, a reasonable person has to admit that, in addition to starting his career as the quarterback of a very good, overall team, he's been the beneficiary of a tremendous amount of good luck.

2012 might provide insight into the "real" Eli. 20 TDs and 15 INTs to go with his 84 rating.

Although I admit that I am a known critic of all things Manning, I think it's very possible that he's a high average quarterback on a very good, all-around team with good coaching.

I also think that even a quarterback who could consistently deliver in the high 80s or low 90s (as compared to Mark Coswell's 66 rating or Quinn's 64) would have a tremendous, positive effect on the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Worth mentioning...

When Eli took over in NY they had the worst OL in the NFL by a large margin. It was the cheapest OL in the NFL, and the worst protecting the QB. Warner was also sub-par behind that joke of a group.

In the end it's helped him. I don't think Eli has ever played behind a GOOD offensive line like his brother, or Brady, or most other QB's. They've been average or worse his entire career. More often they were the latter.

Now I'm not saying OL quality determines anything in today's NFL, but it effects a QB's performance when he has to throw or get sacked after 2 seconds.

The situation Sanchez was in his first two seasons was a young QB's wet dream, while Manning played in a young QB's nightmare.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:15 AM   #38
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eli is average, his super bowls are a direct result of a great defense. getting hot at the right time also helps a lot too.
He's pretty damn good in the clutch moments too. That makes him above average.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:53 AM   #40
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Worth mentioning...

When Eli took over in NY they had the worst OL in the NFL by a large margin. It was the cheapest OL in the NFL, and the worst protecting the QB. Warner was also sub-par behind that joke of a group.

In the end it's helped him. I don't think Eli has ever played behind a GOOD offensive line like his brother, or Brady, or most other QB's. They've been average or worse his entire career. More often they were the latter.

Now I'm not saying OL quality determines anything in today's NFL, but it effects a QB's performance when he has to throw or get sacked after 2 seconds.

The situation Sanchez was in his first two seasons was a young QB's wet dream, while Manning played in a young QB's nightmare.
agreed, though that 2008 OL was decent.
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After two more fumbles and an INT against the #Bills on Sunday,#Jets Mark Sanchez has a total of 112 INTs and fumbles in his 4-year career.
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