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Old 01-02-2012, 11:56 AM  
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*.* 2012 General Fitness Thread *.*

Welcome to 2012! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

**From the 2011 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.

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Old 12-21-2012, 09:56 AM   #766
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It's funny the whole point of lifting weights is to feel good and that ca be accomplished in many ways.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:19 AM   #767
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I thought it fit better since his focus is cardio.

If he's a n00b and puts on too much weight, his form is likely to fail leading to injury, particularly with squat. That's been my experience with n00bs anyway.

If he gets his form solid and gets his supporting muscles stronger, then he could move the weight up, but if he's a n00b, I wouldn't suggest heavy 3 or 5 rep sets.
He isn't squatting.

He could just as easily injure himself with bad form on lighter weights, as well. Form is just as likely to be shot at the end of a 12 rep set, as the muscle will actually be more fatigued than it will with a lower rep set. And he shouldn't start at super high weight with a low rep scheme. He should start lighter and work his way up and keep his focus on form.

I would prefer working lower rep sets when cardio is the focus. Less overall fatigue and overtraining.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:20 AM   #768
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I know what silock is getting at, but he is already wired to put in max and get out max. Lots of people want to go to the gym to feel good not to be ****ing crushed. Silock associates pain with gain, but most just want to get up get out and do then excersizes correctly.
Not pain. Never pain.

Effort.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:22 AM   #769
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It's funny the whole point of lifting weights is to feel good and that ca be accomplished in many ways.
This is generally true, but your options become much more limited when you are dead set on doing one thing more than necessary, like cardio every day.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:24 AM   #770
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He isn't squatting.

He could just as easily injure himself with bad form on lighter weights, as well. Form is just as likely to be shot at the end of a 12 rep set, as the muscle will actually be more fatigued than it will with a lower rep set. And he shouldn't start at super high weight with a low rep scheme. He should start lighter and work his way up and keep his focus on form.

I would prefer working lower rep sets when cardio is the focus. Less overall fatigue and overtraining.
That's fair enough. Just so long as he minds the bolded part. Most people I've been around haven't done that.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:47 AM   #771
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Not pain. Never pain.

Effort.
semantics. Two human drives are pain and pleasure.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:56 AM   #772
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semantics. Two human drives are pain and pleasure.
I don't think it's semantics at all. Effort doesn't have to be painful. But it does need to be at least a little difficult, or you aren't actually doing anything productive. If you aren't putting in effort in the gym, you might as well just stay home.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:20 AM   #773
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I don't think it's semantics at all. Effort doesn't have to be painful. But it does need to be at least a little difficult, or you aren't actually doing anything productive. If you aren't putting in effort in the gym, you might as well just stay home.
agree to disagree. Most of life is just showing up.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:01 PM   #774
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agree to disagree. Most of life is just showing up.
I have seen way too many people that go to the gym every day for years and not lose any weight at all for that to be true in this case.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:04 PM   #775
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agree to disagree. Most of life is just showing up.
that is priceless. Unfortunately too many of my employees feel the same way about their job.
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I have seen way too many people that go to the gym every day for years and not lose any weight at all for that to be true in this case.
I would lean towards agreeing with this. A lot of gyms are full of people just showing up, throwing up some weight on the bench a few times and the rest is socializing, flexing in the mirror, trolling for chicks, or taking up valuable weight stations.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:13 PM   #777
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I would lean towards agreeing with this. A lot of gyms are full of people just showing up, throwing up some weight on the bench a few times and the rest is socializing, flexing in the mirror, trolling for chicks, or taking up valuable weight stations.
keeping the lights on by paying dues?
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that is priceless. Unfortunately too many of my employees feel the same way about their job.
fortunately they don't say **** it and they stay home?
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:17 PM   #779
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I have seen way too many people that go to the gym every day for years and not lose any weight at all for that to be true in this case.
They are healthy enough to make it to the gym for years. Success isn't only about dropping pounds.
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Smith machines...love them or hate them.

I work out in my basement and much prefer my olympic barbell and free weights, but some lifts are too hard alone to go heavy. If I go heavy on incline for example i use my Smith machine with free weights.
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