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Old 12-20-2012, 09:16 AM  
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The GOP is too extreme.

So sayeth the American people.

Just about every point of data, with one exception, is unfavorable for the GOP. The whole poll is worth observing.
  • Obama: 52% approval.
  • "Do you have more confidence in President Obama or in the Republicans in Congress to deal with the major issues facing the country today?" Obama 49%, GOP 31%.
  • Boehner: 34-52 approve/disapprove.
  • The GOP should compromise more than the DNP on their positions, 53 to 41.
  • "Overall, would you describe the views and policies of each of the following as too extreme, or as generally mainstream?" The GOP weighs in at 53 extreme, 43 mainstream. The DNP weighs in at 37-57.
  • 70% believe the fiscal cliff will create either "major problems" or a "crisis," and if we go off it, the GOP will shoulder the blame over the President, 48 to 37.
The only real piece of good news for the GOP: Americans think it's good they've retained the House, 51 to 43.

So that's what the extremism of the GOP has reduced themselves to: a partisan doorstop.

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CNN Poll: Are GOP policies too extreme?
Posted by CNN Political Unit
December 20th, 2012, 05:00 AM ET

Washington (CNN) - Just over half the public says that the GOP should give up more than the Democrats in any bipartisan solution to the country's problems, according to a new national survey.

And a CNN/ORC International poll also indicates that a slight majority of Americans sees the Republican party's policies and views as too extreme, a first for the GOP, and fewer than a third say they trust congressional Republicans more than President Barack Obama to deal with the major issues facing the nation.

The poll's Thursday release comes less than two weeks before the country faces automatic tax increases on nearly all Americans, as well as deep federal spending cuts, if no deal is struck to avert the country from falling off the fiscal cliff at the end of the year.

According to the survey, 53% say the GOP should compromise more, with 41% saying the Democratic Party should give up more of the proposals it supports to develop bipartisan solutions.

"That's due in part to the fact that the Republican brand is not doing all that well," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

Fifty-three percent of those surveyed say they view the policies of the GOP as too extreme, up 17 points from two years ago. Only 37% say they view the polices of the Democratic Party as too extreme.

It probably doesn't help that House Speaker John Boehner, who's leading GOP fiscal cliff negotiations with the president, is held in fairly low regard, particularly in comparison to Obama. According to the poll, 34% of the public approves of how the top Republican in the House handling his job. By contrast, the president's approval rating stands at 52%.

"Small wonder that nearly half say they have more confidence in President Obama than in the congressional Republicans and that nearly half (48%) would blame the GOP if the fiscal cliff occurs," adds Holland.

Thirty-seven percent said they would blame the president more, with 11% saying they would point fingers at both sides equally if no agreement is struck to avert falling off the fiscal cliff.

The survey also indicates that seven in ten Americans continue to think that the fiscal cliff will cause a crisis or major problems for the country if a deal is not reached.

The poll's release comes one day after Obama and Boehner publicly butted heads, with the president saying Republicans were focused too much on besting him personally instead of thinking about what's best for the country. And Boehner said Obama had yet to make a proposal offering his promised approach of balance between increased revenue and spending cuts.

The survey's release also comes hours before the Republican led House is expected to vote on Boehner's backup tax plan that limits tax hikes to income above $1 million. While a concession from his original opposition to any kind of increase in tax rates, the Boehner plan sets a significantly higher threshold for a rate hike than the $400,000 level sought by Obama.

One piece of good news for the Republicans in the survey: Most Americans say that it's good for the country that the GOP controls the House, an indication that the public would not like to see the Democrats with unchecked power in Washington.

The CNN poll was conducted by ORC International December 17-18, with 620 adults nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus four percentage points.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:36 PM   #16
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You don't agree with me!!!!! You are extreme!!!!!!!
A pithy way of putting it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:38 PM   #17
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Why ever would the public believe R's are too extreme?

http://www.goupstate.com/article/201...CLES/212161019
Awesome! Relying on the Tenth Amendment is not extreme. We are a federalism.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:42 PM   #18
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The GOP is as liberal as it's been in the last 100 yrs.
You see, an extreme, right-wing, Alex Jones-loving, tinfoil hat-wearing nutjob making this statement simply proves...oh, never mind, you won't get it.
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:42 PM   #19
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You see, an extreme, right-wing, Alex Jones-loving, tinfoil hat-wearing nutjob making this statement simply proves...oh, never mind, you won't get it.
Another intelligent post by cosmos.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:29 PM   #20
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The GOP is as liberal as it's been in the last 100 yrs.
You must be joking. All the best republicans over the past century would have been considered to liberal or too prone to compromise for the current republican party. Today's republican party has a good number of reasonable public servants but they are scared shitless of their right flank so they contribute nothing while the batshit crazy right wing extremists steer the ship.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:31 PM   #21
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You must be joking. All the best republicans over the past century would have been considered to liberal or too prone to compromise for the current republican party. Today's republican party has a good number of reasonable public servants but they are scared shitless of their right flank so they contribute nothing while the batshit crazy right wing extremists steer the ship.
It's Obama that has to compromise since he doesn't have the power of the purse but wants it. Your party didn't win the House either.
Those Republicans were elected by their constituents to hold the line on spending. Obama wants to spend even more. What he wants is a JOKE. Not all compromise is good.

I agree with Newt on this situation, Obama has never been an executive whereas Clinton was a governor with a conservative legislature. Clinton was used to the give and take of policy making. It was still hard work and contentious with lots of long meetings. Such long meetings have not happened with Obama and it is Obama.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:40 PM   #22
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I said months ago Obama would destroy his challenger in this election. I was laughed at.

Feels so good.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:06 PM   #23
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You see, an extreme, right-wing, Alex Jones-loving, tinfoil hat-wearing nutjob making this statement simply proves...oh, never mind, you won't get it.
It doesn't take Alex Jones and tinfoil hats to see that the GOP is so far removed from the Constitutional principles of small government, it's scary. The GOP establishment talks a good game about small government, but their intrusion into our liberties, Bible-thumping moralist agenda, and warmongering speak louder than their words.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:56 PM   #24
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I said months ago Obama would destroy his challenger in this election. I was laughed at.

Feels so good.
How? Has your life changed in any meaningful way? If Romney had won, how would your life be any different today?
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:03 PM   #25
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How? Has your life changed in any meaningful way? If Romney had won, how would your life be any different today?
We'd probably have averted the fiscal cliff, because Republicans will govern with a Republican President.

With a Democratic President, they are content to let the world burn.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:37 PM   #26
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We'd probably have averted the fiscal cliff, because Republicans will govern with a Republican President.

With a Democratic President, they are content to let the world burn.

How? If Obama gives in like he did last time, the world is saved. Why doesn't Obama care if he burns down the world just so he can get his way?
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:08 AM   #27
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How?
How what? What are you asking me?
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How is Obama going to live with himself when he pushes us over the fiscal cliff, because he was too proud to compromise?
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:23 AM   #29
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How is Obama going to live with himself when he pushes us over the fiscal cliff, because he was too proud to compromise?
He actually has compromised.

He went further than half way to Boehner's opening proposal.

Boehner pulled out of the talks and introduced a partisan bill that featured a bunch of unrealistic GOP valentine items like dismantling Obamacare and cuts for Meals on Wheels (gee, why do Americans consider them extreme?), but because it included a menial millionaire's tax, his own party shot it down.

So, who's unable to compromise, here?
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:14 AM   #30
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Meals on Wheels, really? Is that the source of profligate federal spending?

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