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Old 12-23-2012, 06:43 PM  
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Earl Thomas vs Eric Berry

I am curious as to who CP thinks is the better safety. I remember Mayock pimping Thomas over Berry at the draft and I'm not so sure he was wrong. What say you?
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:50 AM   #31
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There was no freaking way we were going to trade up into the early teens (#14) to take Thomas. Look at how much Atlanta gave up to go get Julio Jones.

However...

Hmmm...

Could have had Okung in the first (who drove Aldon Smith around the field all game long tonight), Beadles in the second (who made the rookie All-NFL team and looks like an All-Pro right now), Morgan Burnett in the third (current SS starter for the Packers), Dennis Pitta in the fourth (7 TD's and nearly 700 yards so far in 2012), Marshall Newhouse or Matt Tennant in the fifth (starter at RT and solid roster guy who would most likely be our starting C), and actually had a sixth and seventh rounder if Pioli doesn't continue to trade up for broke dick or worthless tight ends year after year.

But that's just me and my wacky "who I like in a given draft" shit.

Damn if I don't love the hindsight shit.
Still don't want Okung.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:52 AM   #32
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Pretty sure Berry has graded out as the best safety in the entire NFL the last 4 weeks according to PFF and that is with his targets going up meaning teams have tried to abuse him recently and failed.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:12 AM   #33
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Still don't want Okung.
Eh...

The guy is destroying people right now. He absolutely dominated Aldon Smith last night.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:15 AM   #34
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Eh...

The guy is destroying people right now. He absolutely dominated Aldon Smith last night.
Branden Albert is better.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:36 AM   #35
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Branden Albert is better.
Okay...
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:40 AM   #36
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Okay...
To this point he is.

Okung has played well the last few weeks but he's on a team where EVERYBODY is playing lights out.

And he blocks for a real QB that has pocket presence.

Albert has been one of the better LTs in the AFC while being surrounded by shit.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:42 AM   #37
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All i know is that a Berry/Chancellor combo would give me the jimps.

That Kam man, what a beast, a linebacker playing safety.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:15 PM   #38
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All i know is that a Berry/Chancellor combo would give me the jimps.

That Kam man, what a beast, a linebacker playing safety.
Honestly, they'd get raped in the passing game.

Berry needs a guy like Fresno State's Phillip Thomas behind him. Could be had in the seond/third round area of the 2013 draft. And if you don't know who Phillip Thomas is, you should.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:24 PM   #39
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To this point he is.

Okung has played well the last few weeks but he's on a team where EVERYBODY is playing lights out.

And he blocks for a real QB that has pocket presence.

Albert has been one of the better LTs in the AFC while being surrounded by shit.
Okung is locking guys up independent of the QB. He absolutely stonewalled Smith last night.

However, like I said, the point is moot and I think that Albert has FINALLY progressed to the point where it would be assinine to replace him. Now, he'll probably test the free agent market and if someone makes him a ridiculous offer then you've got to look at moving on, but I think that if you dangle the "new and real QB" thing in front of him we might get a Winston level deal done with him and keep him here.

I'm more worried about the guard situation than I am about Albert at this point. Both Allen and Asamoah are going to have to make serious strides this off-season and be the starters that their draft pick status says they should be.

But I do agree that having a real QB with pocket presence is going to make these guys a lot better than what they've shown the past couple of years.

Albert, Allen, Hudson, Asamoah, Winston

is a pretty solid and young offensive line and playing together is huge in terms of O-line production. I think we'll see some really good things out of this line next year, especially if we get a real QB like Geno operating behind them.
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Pretty sure Berry has graded out as the best safety in the entire NFL the last 4 weeks according to PFF and that is with his targets going up meaning teams have tried to abuse him recently and failed.
It really does show on the field too. He's looked amazing the last 2 games.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:10 PM   #42
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It really does show on the field too. He's looked amazing the last 2 games.
He really did look solid against Wayne in coverage.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:49 PM   #43
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Kam Chancellor, the guy we should have drafted who played with Flowers in college

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Pioli the idiot
Some of us wanted Kam desperately to pair with Berry.
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He really did look solid against Wayne in coverage.
Lock down against one of the best recievers in football.....a safety that's also a beast in the box defending the run He's baaaaaaack
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