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Old 12-23-2012, 05:21 AM  
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2nd amendment?

I know another gun related. Simple question what is the purpose of the second amendment? Is it to help you to protect you, your family and property or is it to protect you, your family, property and the federal government or any authorities in general.
I've read a quote from some texan republican congressman who mention something about civilian militia and George Washington.
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:34 AM   #2
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This was covered in all the other threads. Maybe you could read them?
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:01 PM   #3
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Don't be ridiculous. Who would want to wade through pages and pages to get an answer?
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:19 PM   #4
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“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
― Thomas Jefferson


"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrencesf and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:32 AM   #5
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“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
― Thomas Jefferson


"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrencesf and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
It's a shame both your first and third quotes are found on this page.

http://saf.org/pub/rkba/general/BogusFounderQuotes.htm
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:39 AM   #6
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Don't be ridiculous. Who would want to wade through pages and pages to get an answer?
Why should people who commented on this very point have to respost their answer. That's double the work for us because you can't be bothered. Anyways, DementedLogic answered and answered it correctly.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:19 PM   #7
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Gun ownership makes sense for me if the purpose is to defend yourself against the state. Mind you if you believe that jews are subhuman it makes sense to send them to their death. Like I'll always say people believe what there wanna believe and see what there wanna see.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:38 PM   #8
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Why should people who commented on this very point have to respost their answer. That's double the work for us because you can't be bothered. Anyways, DementedLogic answered and answered it correctly.


You don't have to post your answer. You don't even have to post at this message board (and to be honest, I don't think you should). The nature of the thread and post system is entirely voluntary.

You're such a ridiculous moron that it's almost troll like.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:26 PM
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:00 PM   #9
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This is weird. This guy is supposed to be the father of one of the murdered children.
after watching him smile then prep to cry for the media. Sorry I dnt buy it. I have a hard time believing this is a father of one of the victoms.

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Old 12-24-2012, 03:17 PM   #10
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This is weird. This guy is supposed to be the father of one of the murdered children.
after watching him smile then prep to cry for the media. Sorry I dnt buy it. I have a hard time believing this is a father of one of the victoms.

After doing a quick search of the guy and it appears he is the father of one of the children killed. I will say I find it strange he could be so composed one day after the senseless murder of his child. I cannot or will not stand in judgement of how someone copes with this type of loss. I will say I always look suspiciously at people who jump in front of cameras in tragic situations. But I remind myself everyone handles things differently. Walking up to me with a camera when I am upset or dealing with a loss would lead to me saying walk away and it would be good advice. That said many who know me personally have often commented on their disappointment that I will not talk about things or open up about feelings or whatever. I don't need to talk about things because there is nothing new to talk about. It happened I deal with it and move on. Different strokes for different folks I guess~
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:20 PM   #11
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After doing a quick search of the guy and it appears he is the father of one of the children killed. I will say I find it strange he could be so composed one day after the senseless murder of his child. I cannot or will not stand in judgement of how someone copes with this type of loss. I will say I always look suspiciously at people who jump in front of cameras in tragic situations. But I remind myself everyone handles things differently. Walking up to me with a camera when I am upset or dealing with a loss would lead to me saying walk away and it would be good advice. That said many who know me personally have often commented on their disappointment that I will not talk about things or open up about feelings or whatever. I don't need to talk about things because there is nothing new to talk about. It happened I deal with it and move on. Different strokes for different folks I guess~
He had to put on the sad face. Thats my point. You can clearly see him doing it just seconds before he starts addressing the media. Just weird IMO
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:31 PM   #12
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This is weird. This guy is supposed to be the father of one of the murdered children.
after watching him smile then prep to cry for the media. Sorry I dnt buy it. I have a hard time believing this is a father of one of the victoms.

Yeah, and the staff, parents, and all of the community around the victim decided to take part in the cover up of his identity. Puhleeease.

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Old 12-24-2012, 03:32 PM   #13
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He had to put on the sad face. Thats my point. You can clearly see him doing it just seconds before he starts addressing the media. Just weird IMO
I agree, my post was not calling you out. I was just pointing out people find the way I handle loss strange. I find he way he handled it creepy, but whatever makes his world work I guess~
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Old 12-24-2012, 04:00 PM   #14
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:31 PM   #15
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This is actually a pretty good read on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_...s_Constitution
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