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Old 12-27-2012, 04:18 PM  
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Don Banks from SI on Chiefs Coaching/GM

• Kansas City -- The general consensus among the league sources I interviewed was that the high level of fan unrest in Kansas City would probably lead Chiefs owner Clark Hunt to make the personally difficult decision to replace general manager Scott Pioli, and not just head coach Romeo Crennel. Hunt and Pioli remain close, so there's a chance Pioli returns, especially if there's a head coach hire that Pioli can sell to Hunt as the potential difference maker. Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz is a name long linked to Pioli dating from their days together in Cleveland, and he always surfaces as a possible Pioli hire.

If Pioli isn't retained, he won't be out of work for long, because his personnel judgments are still widely respected throughout the league -- at least outside of Kansas City. It was thought the Chiefs might pursue Bill Polian as a GM candidate, but sources say there has not been contact between the two, even though Polian was thought to be willing to listen.

Other potential GM hires by the Chiefs are plentiful, but they include San Francisco's Gamble, Green Bay director of football operations John Dorsey and Indianapolis vice president of football operations Tom Telesco.

Dorsey is known for having a good eye for talent, and his college scouting background gives him a strong draft pedigree. He has worked under both Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf in Green Bay, two of the most respected personnel evaluators in recent NFL history, and sources say he's ready and willing to pursue all GM opportunities after turning down offers to interview last year.

On the coaching side, Arians, who might win the NFL Coach of the Year award for the job he did as the Colts' interim, is a name that has surfaced in Kansas City. His track record for quarterback coaching is respected, and his résumé includes successful stints with the likes of Peyton Manning in Indy, Ben Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh and this year's impressive rookie season by the Colts' Andrew Luck.

On the defensive side of the ball, Cincinnati defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer has again done a superb job with the talent he has on hand, and his work has as much to do with the Bengals returning to the playoffs as any other factor. He has been long considered a quality head coaching candidate, and his son, Adam Zimmer, is currently a defensive assistant on Crennel's staff.

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Old 12-27-2012, 05:51 PM   #61
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What step is "Antifreeze"?


I might skip straight to it.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:52 PM   #62
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:52 PM   #63
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What step is "Antifreeze"?


I might skip straight to it.
1st.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:53 PM   #64
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:55 PM   #65
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1st.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:55 PM   #66
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A lot of folks like to credit Arians, who is a good OC for sure. But Chuck Pagano orchestrated the Colts' emergence. Pagano drew up the plan for them and was the HC during OTA all the way through pre season.

Arians did a good job executing Pagano's marching orders during the season, but it wasn't his plan.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:56 PM   #67
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Which makes zero sense.

Haley was an abysmal head coach, and his failings only serve to accentuate the stupidity of Pioli for hiring him in the first place.
agree completely

Hiring Haley was Pioli's first and perhaps biggest mistake ... followed by his stubborn attitude about keeping Cassel.

It just snowballed into a gigantic pile of shit from there.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:57 PM   #68
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I did. Now I challenge you to find/ READ ONE ARTICLE that affords definitive proof that Pioli is gone after the season. Until you find such stated facts -I'll hold on to my opnion that NOTHING is for certain yet. I'd love for you to be able to change my opinion.
I have talked to people that have seen it with their own eyes. Some of it has been posted here - like the fact that there were tubs and a two-wheel cart outside his office.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:58 PM   #69
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how quickly forget all the retard shit he did

he didn't move McCluster to running back because of Cassel
he didn't slam McCluster up the middle like a dam power back because of Cassel
he didn't decide whether to go for it on 4th down before our 3rd down play because of cassel
he didn't throw his challenge flag on retarded play that gained us jack shit because of cassel
he didn't refuse to have an OC because of Cassel


Cassel was a major fail but Haley was an immature asshat


Haley better get a new job in arizona or something because he might not have a job next year in pittsburgh. imo.


people are fluffing Haley because it another way to lash out at Pioli
What was he supposed to do with McCluster? The dude sucks and should have never been drafted. That's on Pioli.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:04 PM   #70
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What was he supposed to do with McCluster? The dude sucks and should have never been drafted. That's on Pioli.
changing ... deflecting ... spinning



besides McCluster because a productive slot receiver as soon as Haley got fired.


we add a decent QB and a speed receiver and he will be even more productive.

DMC was not worth a 2nd round pick(i hated it the moment it happened) but the reality is that todd Haley SUCKED as a head coach.

Pioli's mistakes doesn't absolve Haley from his ... it just adds another mistake to Pioli's list.

OCD about Pioli is just beyond stupid
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:19 PM   #71
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That's the second source I've seen nationally that states that Pioli being fired isn't a sure thing. Sad.
I listen to sports radio all day at work. Seems the popular opinion Ive heard to date is Romeo and Cassell are gone, 100%. Pioli being gone is 50-50. Clark and Pioli are actually pretty close so the chance Pioli gets 1 more chance to get it right is pretty decent.

I personally think Pioli should be fired for his performance, or lack of, but the more I hear from football insiders thoughts on the subject I think it may be more likely he will be back. As far as the business side goes the Chiefs did ok.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:24 PM   #72
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agree completely

Hiring Haley was Pioli's first and perhaps biggest mistake ... followed by his stubborn attitude about keeping Cassel.

It just snowballed into a gigantic pile of shit from there.
Haley was far from the biggest mistake. That is Cassel.

Had Scott gotten a real QB, Todd would still be the HC.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:26 PM   #73
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I listen to sports radio all day at work. Seems the popular opinion Ive heard to date is Romeo and Cassell are gone, 100%. Pioli being gone is 50-50. Clark and Pioli are actually pretty close so the chance Pioli gets 1 more chance to get it right is pretty decent.

I personally think Pioli should be fired for his performance, or lack of, but the more I hear from football insiders thoughts on the subject I think it may be more likely he will be back. As far as the business side goes the Chiefs did ok.
But at the end of the day, pioli is the Grand Architect of this tornado of fail... if he doesnt get the axe, then no one should.

This all flowed down from the top like a spring river in the mountains... he's GOTTA go... Clark is burning piles of money like the Joker, otherwise.

If Clark isnt smart enough to see that, then God help us all.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:36 PM   #74
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How can they keep Pioli? They aren't going to bring in a new HC for a GM with 1 year left under contract. So they extend Pioli after what he's done here?

The timing will never be better. Otherwise you just start a carousel of coaches blaming GMs and GMs blaming coaches.

The only conceivable way Pioli stays is if the rumors are true about him being extended last off season.
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