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Old 12-27-2012, 03:18 PM  
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Don Banks from SI on Chiefs Coaching/GM

• Kansas City -- The general consensus among the league sources I interviewed was that the high level of fan unrest in Kansas City would probably lead Chiefs owner Clark Hunt to make the personally difficult decision to replace general manager Scott Pioli, and not just head coach Romeo Crennel. Hunt and Pioli remain close, so there's a chance Pioli returns, especially if there's a head coach hire that Pioli can sell to Hunt as the potential difference maker. Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz is a name long linked to Pioli dating from their days together in Cleveland, and he always surfaces as a possible Pioli hire.

If Pioli isn't retained, he won't be out of work for long, because his personnel judgments are still widely respected throughout the league -- at least outside of Kansas City. It was thought the Chiefs might pursue Bill Polian as a GM candidate, but sources say there has not been contact between the two, even though Polian was thought to be willing to listen.

Other potential GM hires by the Chiefs are plentiful, but they include San Francisco's Gamble, Green Bay director of football operations John Dorsey and Indianapolis vice president of football operations Tom Telesco.

Dorsey is known for having a good eye for talent, and his college scouting background gives him a strong draft pedigree. He has worked under both Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf in Green Bay, two of the most respected personnel evaluators in recent NFL history, and sources say he's ready and willing to pursue all GM opportunities after turning down offers to interview last year.

On the coaching side, Arians, who might win the NFL Coach of the Year award for the job he did as the Colts' interim, is a name that has surfaced in Kansas City. His track record for quarterback coaching is respected, and his résumé includes successful stints with the likes of Peyton Manning in Indy, Ben Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh and this year's impressive rookie season by the Colts' Andrew Luck.

On the defensive side of the ball, Cincinnati defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer has again done a superb job with the talent he has on hand, and his work has as much to do with the Bengals returning to the playoffs as any other factor. He has been long considered a quality head coaching candidate, and his son, Adam Zimmer, is currently a defensive assistant on Crennel's staff.

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Old 12-27-2012, 06:26 PM   #91
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He's just as qualified to be HC as anyone else.

I wouldn't hate the hire.

He's 60. I'd like someone younger.
While I think there are some flaws with Bruce, it is important to realize that their A) is no perfect coach. ****, Belichick, regarded as one of the more detailed and innovative defensive coaches has ****ing had horrible Ds since 2008.

B) I think Bruce deserves a shot as a HC after this year. Personally, I'd just like to see him on another team. If Kelly is gone, and the other candidates are about equal with Arians, I'd support the hire of a guy with a track record of developing QBs, despite there being several things I detest.

Finally, I agree. I'd like to hire someone younger as well.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:27 PM   #92
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Yes, they did, but as the season progressed they've basically been scraping by really bad teams. I've said that Arians has done well for the situation. But I don't see how what he did was much different from Singletary reviving his 49ers squad in year 1, from Mangini and Haley taking their teams from zero to hero early in their coaching tenure. An easy schedule makes a lot of coaches look good.

I've pointed out some of Arians' red flags. So when I discredit Arians' 2012 success, it's because I don't believe 2012 showed enough for me to make those red flags go away.
Yup. I think he'd be an adequate stop-gap/consi prize. I'm not sure we reach a SB with Arians or he stays for a long time. However, having him could be exceptionally beneficial to Geno/Wilson.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:31 PM   #93
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:35 PM   #94
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:37 PM   #95
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Yup. I think he'd be an adequate stop-gap/consi prize. I'm not sure we reach a SB with Arians or he stays for a long time. However, having him could be exceptionally beneficial to Geno/Wilson.
I disagree. I think what you want is a terrific motivator/leader/disciplinary head coach and an offensive coordinator who is a QB guru. Again, the part that bothers me most about Arians is the way he enabled Big Ben to become a spoiled brat, on and off the field. Geno seems like a good kid, but he also seems a little immature. You need a head coach who's going to be tough but fair, not a coach like Arians who will be your best friend even when you screw up.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:37 PM   #96
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I NEVER said it absolves Haley AT ALL.

Some people have to see things in black and white. I don't. I prefer to see the truth.

At the end of the day, Pioli hired Haley which means all of it is 100% Pioli's fault.
This started when Bosschief said firing Haley was a mistake ...

you semi agreed with him by saying this:
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Without Cassel, we might never have seen the outbursts we saw from Haley...
firing Haley wasn't Pioli's mistake, hiring him was
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:42 PM   #97
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He's just as qualified to be HC as anyone else.

I wouldn't hate the hire.

He's 60. I'd like someone younger.
My concern with age is... the NFL is a close-knit community and when a guy coordinates for 10+ years, coordinates for one of the most respected franchises, and wins a super bowl... there's often a reason executives aren't knocking on your door.

There's only been one head coach who won a Super Bowl when his first head coaching gig was 50+ years old. Barry Switzer. There's a reason for that. Because when a guy under everyone's radar goes unnoticed for that long, there were probably red flags.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:42 PM   #98
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Sure, but who's fault is it we need a different HC (third in 5 years)? Who built the scouting department?

Pioli can point fingers at others to blame, but those guys are in place because of Pioli. It might be different if Hunt had to weigh Pioli's successes versus his failures, but there really aren't enough successes to even make a debate of it.
This decision will essentially let us know what we have in Hunt. Either he is a bottom-line type guy who listens to his constituents, or he is a sentimental and loyal fellow like his dad who can overlook failure to a point in order to give a person he likes and respects another shot to correct their errors. If it is the latter, we are in trouble...
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:54 PM   #99
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I wouldn't go that far.

But I've brought up at least 10 times and heard no response... why is it that when the 2009 Chiefs make the playoffs in a Mickey Mouse schedule it's considered a fluke. When Arians does the same thing, the same fans think he's the best thing since sliced bread.

Arians is barely beating really crap competition and he's doing it behind a QB who even as a rookie is 10 times better than anyone the Chiefs have had in 10 years. People who believe he's one of the top choices are chasing after shiny objects.
there's nothing to stretch here but to deny the truth -- Pagano's team. Not Arians' call. To say Arians makes adjustments during games is like saying Luck plays well during the fourth qtr -- it's what these folks do and they do it under Pagano's plan. That's not extraordinary for them and it is the reason they are on Pagano's team.

As for the wins -- they are MOTR in all three phases. They caught the Vikes during a bad stretch, had a few breaks during other games. All will come back to earth for them against Houston.

Arians deserves a shot as HC somewhere. He's obviously going to get one since the HC pool has been so poor over the past 2 decades. Arians is a clever coach, not sure I'd say he's going to be a champ at HC though, but who knows. Especially with the league wide parity changes and NBA like rules etc, I guess any avg HC can go yard nowadays.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:04 PM   #102
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CP basically goes nuts Clark hires Pioli, the majority of the FB world says, Good or Great Hire!

Pioli hires Todd Haley,CP basically goes nuts, the majority of the FB world says, Good or a Great hire. Up and coming new OC, great open offensive mind with SB experience.

Pioli gets Matt Cassel,many CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts about a QB that knows the Patriot Way.Many CP and Chief fans revolt, cuss, kick and scream because of Cassel's 1 year success and millions of dollars.

CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts over Haley & Pioli feuds,gum & candy wrappers, wire taps, etc .... Chiefs fans embarrassed by Pioli & Todd, blames Todd.

Kent Bab exposes Pioli,long after Whitlock feuds with Pioli ... CP & Chief fans wake up. Pioli is a dictator!

Now in the wake of Pioli may stay as long as he hires a new HC and gets a new ( finally a 1st rd ) QB ?

Chiefs fans are their own worst enemy when it comes to wanting something. It's damn easy to just accept and go with the flow and bitch along the way.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:33 PM   #103
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besides McCluster because a productive slot receiver as soon, as Haley got fired.


we add a decent QB and a speed receiver and he will be even more productive.

DMC was not worth a 2nd round , pick(i hated it the moment it happened) but the reality is that todd Haley SUCKED as a head coach.

Pioli's mistakes doesn't absolve Haley from his ... it just adds another mistake to Pioli's list.

OCD about Pioli is just beyond stupid
Haley did not suck as a head coach. You're just a butthurt little girl who apparently would gladly be somebody's puppet, rather than stand up and have some balls and dignity. The guy wasn't allowed to choose his own starting lineup for ****s sake.

BTW, McCluster is on pace to produce 300 yds less than last season.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:36 PM   #104
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CP basically goes nuts Clark hires Pioli, the majority of the FB world says, Good or Great Hire!

Pioli hires Todd Haley,CP basically goes nuts, the majority of the FB world says, Good or a Great hire. Up and coming new OC, great open offensive mind with SB experience.

Pioli gets Matt Cassel,many CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts about a QB that knows the Patriot Way.Many CP and Chief fans revolt, cuss, kick and scream because of Cassel's 1 year success and millions of dollars.

CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts over Haley & Pioli feuds,gum & candy wrappers, wire taps, etc .... Chiefs fans embarrassed by Pioli & Todd, blames Todd.

Kent Bab exposes Pioli,long after Whitlock feuds with Pioli ... CP & Chief fans wake up. Pioli is a dictator!

Now in the wake of Pioli may stay as long as he hires a new HC and gets a new ( finally a 1st rd ) QB ?

Chiefs fans are their own worst enemy when it comes to wanting something. It's damn easy to just accept and go with the flow and bitch along the way.
Who's said Pioli could stay?
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Who's said Pioli could stay?
This.

I have yet to see one person say that.
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