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Old 04-14-2012, 01:26 PM  
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Old 12-29-2012, 11:36 AM   #1051
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Except he wasn't trying to make a play on the ball. KU get's that call every time.

Why in the world does EVERYTHING about Mizzou sports have to ultimately come back to KU? Can't you live without us? "It gets better...it really does."
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:05 PM   #1052
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In all fairness, even I thought the foul calls at Mizzou arena last year were questionable. However, that remains the only time I can remember where there was an appreciable difference in fouls that leaned in Mizzou's favor, home or away. Part of that is talent- better talent forces poorer defensive play. But college basketball officiating absolutely has a built-in favor for the more marquee teams, and having referees assigned only to specific conferences (see: Pac12 officiating crew, UCLA v Mizzou 2012) only creates an opportunity for officials to protect and bolster the sacred cows within their conference.
There was a freakanomics episode about officiating and how it usually favors the home team because of the referees getting intimidated by the crowd. I think KU's raucous atmosphere definitely makes a difference, whereas in arenas where the crowd isn't quite so rambunctious, there is less of a difference in officials' calls.

I know that KU has a couple of referees that really dislike the Jayhawks, like John Higgins.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:26 PM   #1053
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Why in the world does EVERYTHING about Mizzou sports have to ultimately come back to KU? Can't you live without us? "It gets better...it really does."
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:43 PM   #1054
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There was a freakanomics episode about officiating and how it usually favors the home team because of the referees getting intimidated by the crowd. I think KU's raucous atmosphere definitely makes a difference, whereas in arenas where the crowd isn't quite so rambunctious, there is less of a difference in officials' calls.

I know that KU has a couple of referees that really dislike the Jayhawks, like John Higgins.
I agree. And I'll add that once a program is labeled "elite" (and KU's is very elite) there's a phenomenon that goes unspoken that those programs, and their elite players, tend to get calls. You can't put your finger on it, but it's as apparant as invisible air, it's just there. Yet people with dilute the argument with "there's a hold on every play," "they neext to protect .....," "they weren't in the right position to make the call," "you have to earn respect," so on and so forth. By the time you're done, the obvious charge under the basket is written of to "letting them play," but 12 seconds later, at the other end of the court, the shadow that touched a players underarm hair is called a shooting foul. A ball that's six inches off the black of the plate is called a strike (Smoltz and Glavine int he 90s [and I'm an Atlanta fan!]), so written off as, "well it's a hitters game, and the camera isn't behind the plate," (not dumbass, it's over it - the best angle!) - and K-zone technology is still written off. Ties at 1st base not being reviewable because, "it'd slow down the pace of the game" (and illuminate the need for electronic help if you want to get the call right)!

So officiating is challenging, I'm the father of a young Football/Baseball/Wrestling "official" who loves it, but has learned how difficult it is. He's also learned how to take a dressing-down by a few coaches and some Moms too.. And at his level, I think it's OK to not have electronic help because of the cost, but when you get into these HUGE money situations, not only should the "help" be dutifully incorporated into the sport, but an open review of the officials should be OK. My God, if politicians can take the heat of open public review, these "real" people should be able to too.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:13 PM   #1055
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There was a freakanomics episode about officiating and how it usually favors the home team because of the referees getting intimidated by the crowd. I think KU's raucous atmosphere definitely makes a difference, whereas in arenas where the crowd isn't quite so rambunctious, there is less of a difference in officials' calls.

I know that KU has a couple of referees that really dislike the Jayhawks, like John Higgins.
Maybe to a point but fans usually don't react unless there's an obvious miss-call.

refs make calls as the action is taking place...and fans react afterwards.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:41 PM   #1056
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Maybe to a point but fans usually don't react unless there's an obvious miss-call.

refs make calls as the action is taking place...and fans react afterwards.
Fans are stupid. They don't have the best view of the action. The ref usually does. Many times, fans boo on completely legit calls.
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:05 PM   #1057
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Why in the world does EVERYTHING about Mizzou sports have to ultimately come back to KU? Can't you live without us? "It gets better...it really does."
Well dumbass, this is a Mizzou thread so obviously you can't live without reading about SEC teams that are not your rival and will probably never be playing your team in any sport so apparently you can't live without MU. And it was a halfassed beaker that started talking shit the minute that the game was decided so apparently she can't live without thinking about MU either.
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:37 PM   #1058
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Why in the world does EVERYTHING about Mizzou sports have to ultimately come back to KU? Can't you live without us? "It gets better...it really does."
What are you doing in an MU thread?
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:31 AM   #1059
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Give me negative rep all you want for my opinion. But this clip makes it pretty obvious that it was just one of those quick reach fouls that Pressy tried to sell.


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Old 12-30-2012, 06:20 AM   #1060
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When the MU player got T'd up for putting the ball on the floor, the refereeing bias was illustrated.
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:40 PM   #1062
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:41 PM   #1063
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Pressey is hands down the best passing PG in the country and he can score. Seems to try and score a little too much at times.


MU needs someone other than Pressey to be the scorer.
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