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Since we don't have any announced trades as of yet, and Dorsey has said he'll draft the best player available, here's the most recent incarnation of my mock:

1. Geno Smith, QB; West Virginia: 6'3", 220 lbs.

- Yeah, they traded for Alex Smith. But he's 29 years old and coming off of a concussion injury. Alex represents the best potential starting QB for the Chiefs in 2013 prior to the draft. Which is what Dorsey/Reid have tried to accomplish in free agency - setting the Chiefs up with the potential for winning right out of the gate. However, there also has to be long term potential at the QB position. As well, Dorsey has stated he'll take the best player available. That guy is Geno.



3. Phillip Thomas, FS; Fresno State: 6'1", 210 lbs.

- Thomas was the only non-BCS player to make all five official First Team All-American lists after the 2012 season after posting other-worldly numbers for the Bulldogs. Incredibly instinctive with a high football IQ, Thomas is superb in the open field showing excellent feet and hips, as well as going after ball carriers with authority.



3. John Simon, DE/OLB; Ohio State: 6'1", 257 lbs.

- John Simon is an absolute animal. Relentless. He's the terminator - he never stops, never quits. He's strong like bull and is thickly muscled. The best pass rusher on the Buckeyes squad for the past two years leading them in both sacks and tackles for loss. A former five star prep recruit, Simon does not know any other speed than full tilt relentless destruction. Think of linebackers like Bill Romanowski - that's how this kid plays.



4. Joe Kruger, DE/DT; Utah: 6'7", 280 lbs.

- The younger brother of Ravens DE/LB Paul, Joe is a physically bigger version of him. A workout warrior with a nose for the ball and a nasty streak, he'll play through the whistle. Led the Utes in sacks in 2012. Big frame and good athleticism. Anyone wanting SMU's Margus Hunt, this is a more polished, more experienced version that's been well coached and played against top level competition. Plays a lot like current Denver Bronco Derek Wolfe.



5. Kevin Reddick, ILB; North Carolina: 6'2", 245 lbs.

- Downgraded by some scouts/draftniks saying that he ran "hot and cold," however, from what I've seen, he's very instinctive and was able to find the ball/play through traffic. Shed blocks extremely well in addition to being able to fight through them. Pretty impressed with Reddick at this point.



6. Ricky Wagner, OT; Wisconsin: 6'6", 310 lbs.

- A former prep basketball star, he ended up playing both sides of the offensive line and was named First Team All-Conference his senior year. Experienced and from a system that consistently puts out quality pro prospects. Has the athletic ability to play either side of the line in a pinch, but should be a natural right tackle at that next level.



6. Jeff Baca, OG; UCLA: 6'4", 305 lbs.

- Agressive and physical, Baca started his career at offensive tackle and moved inside for his junior and senior year. Has also filled in at center. Second team All-Conference and was voted most outstanding senior on offense by his Bruin teammates.



7. Rex Burkhead, RB; Nebraska: 5'10", 215 lbs.

- Excellent hands and a crafty first step, Burkhead is a multi-dimensional threat. Plays hard and tough - will immediately contribute on special teams and has potential as a third down back or fullback.


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Seems like an easy solution to me...

- Geno Smith

+ Tyler Wilson
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Seems like an easy solution to me...

- Geno Smith

+ Tyler Wilson/Matt Barkley

yeah, it's not as interesting a question as it seemed when i was high...
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Old 01-01-2013, 10:23 AM   #48
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yeah, it's not as interesting a question as it seemed when i was high...


I really don't see another option other than Geno.

However, here's a hypothetical:

I believe that Alex Smith is going to be the major veteran QB acquisition this off-season for teams thinking that they need a guy sooner rather than later or that don't feel that the talent level is available in the draft equal to what Smith offers.

He's got a two years left on a three year deal worth $24 million that has $7.5 million on it for 2013 & 2014. Bonus aren't anything to worry about. It's not a ridiculous contract for a starting QB who was leading the league in completion percentage and QB rating in 2012. He won't stretch the field but he's an accurate short and mid guy who is capable of spreading it around quickly. Good athlete as well.

Arizona
NY Jets
Jacksonville
Buffalo
Cleveland
Kansas City

Would have to be considered as teams that will take a look at Smith.

If the Chiefs went that route, and kept the 34 defensive alignment that they are currently set up to run and they have to keep the pick, my mock would potentially look like this:

1. Dee Milliner, CB; Alabama
2. Justin Hunter, WR; Tennessee
3. Lance Jones, QB; Oklahoma
4. Margus Hunt, DE; SMU
5. Kiko Alonso, ILB; Oregon
6. Michael Williams, TE; Alabama
7. Brad McDougald, S; Kansas
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I really don't see another option other than Geno.

However, here's a hypothetical:

I believe that Alex Smith is going to be the major veteran QB acquisition this off-season for teams thinking that they need a guy sooner rather than later or that don't feel that the talent level is available in the draft equal to what Smith offers.

He's got a two years left on a three year deal worth $24 million that has $7.5 million on it for 2013 & 2014. Bonus aren't anything to worry about. It's not a ridiculous contract for a starting QB who was leading the league in completion percentage and QB rating in 2012. He won't stretch the field but he's an accurate short and mid guy who is capable of spreading it around quickly. Good athlete as well.

Arizona
NY Jets
Jacksonville
Buffalo
Cleveland
Kansas City

Would have to be considered as teams that will take a look at Smith.

If the Chiefs went that route, and kept the 34 defensive alignment that they are currently set up to run and they have to keep the pick, my mock would potentially look like this:

1. Dee Milliner, CB; Alabama
2. Justin Hunter, WR; Tennessee
3. Lance Jones, QB; Oklahoma
4. Margus Hunt, DE; SMU
5. Kiko Alonso, ILB; Oregon
6. Michael Williams, TE; Alabama
7. Brad McDougald, S; Kansas
yeah, i was trying to tease out - i think - if you'd just take the next 'best' QB (say, wilson)...trade down, keep the pick and draft QB in the 2nd...etc.

smith and jones would depress the hell out of me
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yeah, i was trying to tease out - i think - if you'd just take the next 'best' QB (say, wilson)...trade down, keep the pick and draft QB in the 2nd...etc.

smith and jones would depress the hell out of me
Personally, I think that it's nearly mandatory that the Chiefs pursue Jason Campbell and I'd make sure that I kept Jim Zorn around as QB coach. Campbell had his best performances as a pro under Zorn. I think he's at the point in his career that he'd be willing to work as a #2 guy and I think he'd been exemplary in that role, especially an offense that was geared around Geno Smith.

And you could get him a lot cheaper than Smith's 7.5 million dollar salary.

And while Wilson is good, I'd be a little scared to draft him in the first round due to his injury history as well as his somewhat erratic performance this season. The concussions scare the hell out of me, especially when this guy is going to be the teams QBOTF. And he's basically the same guy as Geno (size, tough guy, got a little fire in him, good arm, etc.) and I think that Geno has better touch, delivery, accuracy and awareness. (Wilson takes some huge hits in the pocket a lot.)

And there isn't a defensive player or skill position offensive guy (LT, WR, RB) that is as good at their position as Geno is at his.

No, it's Geno and it's not close.
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Newly updated to reflect the near guaranteed move up the charts by Stedman Bailey, who most likely won't be available with the Chiefs fourth round pick.

Kruger gets the fourth round nod as Dorsey is most likely gone and Jackson has been less than stellar. As well Pit and Bailey haven't shown much over the 2012 season for the Chiefs. Kruger has the bloodlines, size, drive and skill.

Also re-added Blaize Foltz as the seventh rounder with the retirement of Lilja and the lack of progress by Asamoah and Allen during the 2012 season. Foltz is a beast and struggled with injuries the past two seasons, but when healthy, he can take over the point of attack.
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Well it certainly addresses our positions of need, in the order I would if all things are equal.
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I'm projecting two third rounders for the Chiefs because of the Carr compensation.

1. Geno Smith, QB; WVU: 6'3", 225 lbs.

- Big arm with excellent ball placement. Prototype size. Superb pocket presence and accuracy. Exceptionally quick release with a high release point. Smart with excellent field vision. Smith has all the tools one looks for in a NFL franchise quarterback. WVU has lost three in a row and has the worst defense in D1 college football, but Geno is still the same guy he's been the past two and a half years as the Mountaineers starting QB.



2. David Amerson, CB; NC State: 6'2", 195 lbs.

- Many considered Amerson as the top cornerback prospect entering the 2012 season. He had a couple bad games early and has dropped a bit. However, he's still tied for fourth nationally in interceptions and has superb size with excellent ball skills.



3. Phillip Thomas, S; Fresno State: 6'1", 215 lbs.

- Finished the season as everyone's first team All-American (the only non-BCS conference player on all five official All-American lists)after leading the country in interceptions (8) and interceptions returned for touchdowns (3) to go along with a number of forced fumbles, passes defensed, tackles for loss...you know, the whole enchilada. Not a one year wonder either as he's put up very good numbers his entire career. He'll be overshadowed in the draft by players like Rambo, McDonald, Lester and Reid, but Thomas is the real deal.



3. Shane Skov, ILB; Stanford: 6'3", 251 lbs.

- Could functionally play any of the linebacking positions in either a 34 or 43. Stanford's leading tackler for two straight years. A former five star prep recruit with a nose for the ball. A blown ACL in 2011 and a DUI arrrest in 2012 as well as MLB position will drop him in the draft. If he's there with this pick, it's would be a nice little coup for the Chiefs.



4. Joe Kruger, DE/DT; Utah: 6'7", 280 lbs.

- The younger brother of Ravens DE/LB Paul, Joe is a physically bigger version of him. A workout warrior with a nose for the ball and a nasty streak, he'll play through the whistle. Led the Utes in sacks in 2012. Big frame and good athleticism. Anyone wanting SMU's Margus Hunt, this is a more polished, more experienced version that's been well coached and played against top level competition. Plays a lot like current Denver Bronco Derek Wolfe.



5. Brad Sorensen, QB; Southern Utah: 6'4", 235 lbs.

- Sorensen, a three year starter for the Thunderbirds, is a three time First Team All-Conference selection and holder of every single school passing record but two. He has a cannon for an arm (might be the strongest arm in the entire draft class) coupled with good accuracy and very good pocket awareness along with a natural poise for the position. He'll need to get coached up and become acclimated to the speed of the game after playing in the FCS level, but he's got all the tools to be a very good NFL level prospect.



6. Michael Williams, TE; Alabama: 6'5", 278 lbs.

- A huge tight end with soft hands. Punishing in the run game. Will be interesting to see where he ends up in the draft. Could go high, but most likely will be available in the later rounds as he doesn't have the speed and versatility to be more than a blocker and red zone threat - but he should excel at both of those chores.



7. Blaize Foltz, OG; TCU: 6'4", 310 lbs.

- Even though Foltz was hampered by an ankle problem he was still voted 2nd Team All-Big 12. He possesses immense strength (Foltz can bench 580 lbs. and squat 800 lbs.) and can simply dominate the point of attack. Team leader with noted excellent work ethic, the Rose Hill, Kansas native already has his degree. Will participate in the 2013 East-West Shrine Bowl.

Nice draft, there may be 2 extra picks for the chiefs from losing brandon carr (3rd round comp pick) and barry richardson (7th round comp pick) who would you select with those 2 picks ?
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Goddammit. I really wanted him as a Chief this next year. He's looking for first round money obviously.

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