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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists
Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



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Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
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Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:00 PM   #1516
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So you're afraid to share your belief for fear of it being proven wrong huh? That's OK, that's about what I expected...

But it's sure neat that you have devised a chronological order of knowledge to apply to a civilization. I'm sure that will come in handy.

I've never been one to think that any idea or topic is beyond current human understanding though. Limiting or delaying our understanding, or thinking that we know enough about anything, is a pretty frightening way to live life in my opinion.
My belief doesn't make something fact no more than yours does. This is what makes evolution a religion. IMO is just that.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:24 PM   #1517
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My belief doesn't make something fact no more than yours does. This is what makes evolution a religion. IMO is just that.
I can see why it would appear that way to you.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:36 PM   #1518
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My belief doesn't make something fact no more than yours does. This is what makes evolution a religion. IMO is just that.
You are quite right about the first sentence. But not the second.

Evolution is not based on belief. It's based on repeatable observation. We can observe a species, and then observe them again at a later date in time, and note special changes. That one simple fact is what makes it different than a religious belief.

Let's use an example. Say I have a species of ants. I observe and record the ant physiology over 40 years of my life. At the end of my 40 years, I can compare my observations, and note the changes. I've had complete control of the ant environment for 40 years, to ensure there were no outside influences. I can offer evidence such as continuous video recording to prove that my ant experiment happened exactly according to my observations. I can hold up an ant from the end of the experiment, and compare it to ones preserved at the beginning of the experiment, to directly show physical changes. All of that is actual evidence I have that evolution occurred over the 40 years of the ant species.

Now let's attempt the same example with religious Creation. But where to start? We have no evidence of an experimenter. In the evolution example, we can show exactly who the experimenter was. We have proof the experimenter existed. But we cannot prove that a God existed. Huge difference. OK, moving on... Do we have proof the experiment happened? Nobody recorded the biblical creation, so no. Can we look at fossil records to show that the experiment happened? No, as fossil records actually show the opposite, indicating that the Earth is billions of years old instead. So where's the evidence? We can't seem to find any for the biblical creation. In our evolution experiment, we easily had lots of evidence to point to.

Comparing the two experiments, one provided a great deal of evidence. And one did not. One of the experiments is considered a belief. The other is a proven scientific theory.
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:45 PM   #1519
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bah humbug!!

beliefs, scientific theories, who gives a shit?

fat scott is still gm...

now THAT'S a fact, unfortunately...
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:47 PM   #1520
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bah humbug!!

beliefs, scientific theories, who gives a shit?

fat scott is still gm...

now THAT'S a fact, unfortunately...
Ahhh on this we can agree. I'll keep mine,you keep yours and Scott Pioli gets fired...triple crown!
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Old 01-02-2013, 01:47 PM   #1521
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oh, provable observations are not facts, they are just theories about facts, a belief system if you will...

and it's just an ad hominem strawman attack, anyway...

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Old 01-02-2013, 01:59 PM   #1522
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So where is the proof of how the first organism came to be?
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:02 PM   #1523
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So where is the proof of how the first organism came to be?
That's not an issue of evolution. I think that has been mentioned once or twice before.
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So where is the proof of how the first organism came to be?

It's over there in the corner. In that bucket labeled "Where God Came From."
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bah humbug!!

beliefs, scientific theories, who gives a shit?

fat scott is still gm...

now THAT'S a fact, unfortunately...
No thats a disaster on a biblical scale so it does belong in here
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My belief doesn't make something fact no more than yours does. This is what makes evolution a religion. IMO is just that.


Black Guy - just laid out tons of facts about evolution and explained everything in detail with facts backing every little thing up.

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Black Guy - just laid out tons of facts about evolution and explained everything in detail with facts backing every little thing up.

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