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Old 01-03-2013, 10:40 AM  
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Defense: Will We Still Be in the 3-4 in 2013?

Who will be the next DC?

Which players would be out of a job if we changed scheme?

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Old 01-03-2013, 11:15 AM   #2
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Bump 'cause this is srsly, guis.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:20 AM   #3
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I don't want this to happen but if they go back to 4-3.

Move Tamba to DE then you could possibly draft Jarvis Jones (even though I want Geno) and you'd have 3 pass rushers.

Hali, Houston & Jones.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:22 AM   #4
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I don't want this to happen but if they go back to 4-3.

Move Tamba to DE then you could possibly draft Jarvis Jones (even though I want Geno) and you'd have 3 pass rushers.

Hali, Houston & Jones.
Does Houston work as LDE? He seems undersized.

Also: Jarvis Jones at #1 overall would ****ing destroy my self esteem. Might kill myself, actually.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:23 AM   #5
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Jarvis will go in teh top 5.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:27 AM   #6
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Hali and Houston will be fine as DE's in a 4-3 as long as we make sure have some beef at the DT's.

conveniently we have 'beef' leftover from the NT position in our 3-4
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:28 AM   #7
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Does Houston work as LDE? He seems undersized.

Also: Jarvis Jones at #1 overall would ****ing destroy my self esteem. Might kill myself, actually.
Am I missing something?

in a 4-3 you have Hali as DE.

OLBs are Houston & Jones.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:29 AM   #8
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Houston - Powe - Poe - Hali

That would be your defensive line.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:33 AM   #9
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Does Houston work as LDE? He seems undersized.

Also: Jarvis Jones at #1 overall would ****ing destroy my self esteem. Might kill myself, actually.
Houston is 11 pounds lighter and 3 inches shorter than Jared Allen.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:43 AM   #10
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Am I missing something?

in a 4-3 you have Hali as DE.

OLBs are Houston & Jones.
I don't think either of those guys projects as well at 4-3 OLB.

DJ is not a great 4-3 MLB, either.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:47 AM   #11
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Houston - Powe - Poe - Hali

That would be your defensive line.
Houston - Powe - Poe - Hali

????? - Siler - DJ

Flowers - Lewis - Berry - ?????



Not sure I like it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:53 AM   #12
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Does it matter? Denver runs a 4-3, but it could be said they play more like a 3-4. One of the OLBs (Dumervil) just happens to start the play with his hand in the dirt.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:53 AM   #13
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If Heckert is the next GM, seems like he's more comfortable drafting for a 4-3. They transitioned from 3-4 to 4-3 when they took over for Mangini in Cleveland...
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:53 AM   #14
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I would really hate to switch over, this unit as is, is the undeniable strength of the team, just a small handful of players from being complete.

Switching up, would erase all of that progress and take atleast a full year to get the new pieces in place, more likely two years, for each player to be the ideal fit.

I've also always believed the 3-4 to be a more versatile setup, the extra LB can play better coverage than a lineman or play more like a lineman when needed, and the oversized DE's plus huge NT'S make for a helluva short yardage package.

Having said that, if it takes a 4-3 to get Reid in here, i'll live, but it just seems like such a waste.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:02 PM   #15
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I would really hate to switch over, this unit as is, is the undeniable strength of the team, just a small handful of players from being complete.

Switching up, would erase all of that progress and take atleast a full year to get the new pieces in place, more likely two years, for each player to be the ideal fit.

I've also always believed the 3-4 to be a more versatile setup, the extra LB can play better coverage than a lineman or play more like a lineman when needed, and the oversized DE's plus huge NT'S make for a helluva short yardage package.

Having said that, if it takes a 4-3 to get Reid in here, i'll live, but it just seems like such a waste.
Completely agree.

The only thing that gives me hope is that Phat Andy likes an attacking defense.

Perhaps he hires an attacking 3-4 guy instead of our current "d lineman aren't supposed to rush the passer" defense...
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