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Old 01-02-2013, 04:46 PM  
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brake line fitting

Busted the line at the fitting on the rear passenger side today. I can't get the fitting off, it seems really soft on both ends. Box wrench and socket wanted to round the edges with the slightest amount of torque. Special tool of tricks?

Orielly didn't know the diameter of.the line either. My chiltons didn't have specs that I seen. I assumed its 3/16.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:14 PM   #151
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:14 PM   #152
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:15 PM   #153
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What?

Its like you intelligently put together a question that under the guise of intelligence, is rather unintelligent.

To answer, you don't want air in your brake lines, ever. There is no way to create an exact amount, nor would an exact amount manage to "level" braking pressure enough to completely dissuade the chance of a "pull" due to the finite relationship of the length, diameter, and components of the braking system being built under the understanding of implied fluids.

Also, if there is air in your system, you have a leak. And if there is a leak, it is impossible to "contain" a finite amount of air pressure inside of the braking system as the basic design of the braking system allows air to be pulled in rather than pushed out, and your brake fluid in turn is the odd man out of the equation.


I'm still wondering what tests dummy dums has taken, what route he took to get his master tech cert, how he thinks brakes systems are designed, in theory, to function forever, and so forth.
It was an intentionally silly question to illustrate the ridiculousness of a difference in 1/16 of an inch in brake line length. My point is that if you have ANY air in the system it will completely obliterate any effect of difference in brake line length because air is more than 1000 times more compressible than brake fluid. If there was any measurable pull due to a 1/16 of an inch difference in brake line length, you would end up in the ditch if you applied the brakes with air in the line.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:16 PM   #154
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if you need to know how sharp it is, look up my thread where I cut off my huge skin tag with it.



....so yeah.......it's pretty awesome. It could probably cut a brake line if you know what i mean.....*wink wink, nudge nudge*
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:17 PM   #155
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Most of the time air won't cause a pull.
just a spongy pedal
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:18 PM   #156
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It was an intentionally silly question to illustrate the ridiculousness of a difference in 1/16 of an inch in brake line length. My point is that if you have ANY air in the system it will completely obliterate any effect of difference in brake line length because air is more than 1000 times more compressible than brake fluid. If there was any measurable pull due to a 1/16 of an inch difference in brake line length, you would end up in the ditch if you applied the brakes with air in the line.
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you ****ers are really making me start to question the status of my brake lines

thanks for the paranoia.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:22 PM   #158
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I'm going to bed ...after playing NBA2k13...

but If I die tomorrow because brake issue bullshit, I'm logging in tomorrow and blaming everyone.

and I fully expect a 'well-bye' thread. but not with that pussy Powers Boothe....but Fisty McTatt.

I'll check tomorrow to see if I need to adjust the ft lbs of torque on my fetzer valve....since, obviously 'Sauto ****e it up earlier. I don't recommend him for the record.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:22 PM   #159
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90 percent of the time that rubber brake line got RESTRICTED. that's why they fail.

That's why when you step on the brakes the car pulls.one way then straightens itself out, then drifts the other when letting off the pedal. The restriction slows the fluid to the wheel, then holds the fluid at the wheel longer.
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90%? No, not even remotely lol.

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I think you're right. that sounds about right.
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actually it's teed on the drivers side of the diff.


OMG the line he needs is longer with no prop valve in between them.

Lol at the prop valve talk. School boy
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Um, are you under the impression that all brake lines are equal, or that I've said that? Or that I've said they have to be equal?

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It was an intentionally silly question to illustrate the ridiculousness of a difference in 1/16 of an inch in brake line length. My point is that if you have ANY air in the system it will completely obliterate any effect of difference in brake line length because air is more than 1000 times more compressible than brake fluid. If there was any measurable pull due to a 1/16 of an inch difference in brake line length, you would end up in the ditch if you applied the brakes with air in the line.
You've never driven a car with a serious brake line fault have you? lol.

The point isn't that 1/16th of an inch can matter abstractly, its that when you REMOVE 1/16th of an inch, it will matter.

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You are half right, half wrong because you didn't specify where the air was.

If you had actually taken an ASE test, you'd know the tests are quite descriptive and specific.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:25 PM   #160
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Take a quick peek at those hoses. Check for cracks and lumps.

If your car is more than five years old it's a good idea to check if the steel is rusting. How bad.


I replaced two steel lines and an abs motor on a 2006 silverado today. LOL
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:28 PM   #162
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you ****ers are really making me start to question the status of my brake lines

thanks for the paranoia.
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In all seriousness, when I made that comment about the 1/16th of an inch, I wasn't implying that you're going to die in a freak accdient, so don't worry.

What will likely happen though is you'll end up with premature wear in the brake pads, a faint, minor pull at most, maybe a little uneven war in the pads or on the rotor depending on a billion variables, and likely needing to replace the rubber hoses sooner rather than later.

It isn't life threatening, but it is my job to do everything by the book, because anything less is untested and unsafe. I don't get paid to half ass a job so that someone can die and my company can face a lawsuit. If I mess something up, it is my ass and comes out of my company to replace it.

Being a Diagnostic Specialist, its my job to be right about everything 110% of the time, and 75% of my work has to do with technicalities and specifics, and seriously "deep" thought.

Shadetree over there will tell you that there won't be an issue. I'll be able to hypothesize 75 different variables that could cause a problem all because of 1/16th of an inch of brakeline.

Its his job to get his hands dirty, its my job to find the problem, find out why that problem happened, and how to prevent that problem.

Sometimes, its my job to find the fault of a mechanic and people get fired because it. I can't help but do my job right to the best of my ability, and it pisses me off when some Shadetree nobody tells me I'm wrong in an industry where I'm well above him in on the totem.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:29 PM   #163
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Take a quick peek at those hoses. Check for cracks and lumps.

If your car is more than five years old it's a good idea to check if the steel is rusting. How bad.


I replaced two steel lines and an abs motor on a 2006 silverado today. LOL
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Chevy's man, Chevy's.

I got to diagnose the entirety of the electronics in the ABS system of a 2004 Acura RSX today!

At least your job was simple and easy.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:32 PM   #164
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If that's what you actually do I would be embarrassed if I was you.

No problems are getting fixed. None. every manufacturer is putting out pieces of shit. Ford. Lol. I was talking about a ford truck the whole time you stupid ****.

Get your ****ing hands dirty and you will see why they are pieces of shit
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:33 PM   #165
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