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Old 01-02-2013, 08:51 AM  
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Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged)

I just saw it on his Facebook status...

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Update from @mortreport: Cards visit with Andy Reid is off, Chiefs have not scheduled other visits with candidates, hoping to wrap deal Fri.

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Old 01-04-2013, 09:16 PM   #6496
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There is a great 34 de from Florida that could be had in the 2nd
Floyd will likely be a 1st round pick.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:19 PM   #6497
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What you and everyone else WHINING about a defensive change needs to realize is one thing:

We have built nothing on defense.

We do not have a good defense.

We have a few good players who have experienced a modicum of success over the course of 2-3 years.

Changing it is NOT the end of the world.
Exactly! Our D when it counted got ****ed in the ass. BAL, SD, CIN killed us. Hell every game they sucked except BAL, PIT, first DEN game. Every one shredded us. For all the accolades RAC got, Chan Gailey made him his bitch
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:19 PM   #6498
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What you and everyone else WHINING about a defensive change needs to realize is one thing:

We have built nothing on defense.

We do not have a good defense.

We have a few good players who have experienced a modicum of success over the course of 2-3 years.

Changing it is NOT the end of the world.


First of all, nobody is whining.

Second of all, we have several pieces of a good 3-4 already in place. Ramming them into a 4-3 lessens their impact.

To say we've built nothing on defense is categorically false.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:20 PM   #6499
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Exactly! Our D when it counted got ****ed in the ass. BAL, SD, CIN killed us. Hell every game they sucked except BAL, PIT, first DEN game. Every one shredded us. For all the accolades RAC got, Chan Gailey made him his bitch
Several of these guys were already here, setting records for futility in a 4-3. So yeah.
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You would think we had built the 97 Chiefs defense or something the last two years.

Uh, no.

If we change schemes and have the 15th ranked defense well, um, that would be an improvement by five spots.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:23 PM   #6501
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Several of these guys were already here, setting records for futility in a 4-3. So yeah.
Im not saying we dont completely have nothing on D but our D sucks. Its shown it can do things but my concerns have been in clutch situations
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:23 PM   #6502
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You would think we had built the 97 Chiefs defense or something the last two years.

Uh, no.

If we change schemes and have the 15th ranked defense well, um, that would be an improvement by five spots.
If we change schemes, we won't have the 15th ranked defense. That's the whole point.

The guys everybody wants to build around - Dorsey, Hali, DJ - were part of one of the worst 4-3 cover 2 defenses ever.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:23 PM   #6503
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If they want to change, fine. But it needs to be because they feel our existing pieces are better fit for that. Not just because thats what they are comfortable with.


We know Tamba is better in the 34, same with DJ. Houston likely is better as a 34 OLB.


We have 2 great pass rushers and a great MLB. We need to be putting better passrushers up front.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:24 PM   #6504
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You would think we had built the 97 Chiefs defense or something the last two years.

Uh, no.

If we change schemes and have the 15th ranked defense well, um, that would be an improvement by five spots.
The scheme was held back by horrible coaching this year. Two years ago, it was held back by an outdated scheme. When Romeo chose to attack with the defense they were very good. When he didn't, they were so-so or terrible.

The talent is fine. It's the scheme more than anything.
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If we change schemes, we won't have the 15th ranked defense. That's the whole point.

The guys everybody wants to build around - Dorsey, Hali, DJ - were part of one of the worst 4-3 cover 2 defenses ever.
And Hali and DJ were ALSO part of two 4-3 cover 2 defenses that were pretty decent in 06 and 07.

As decent as ANY defense Crennel put on the field.

And yes, those teams had Jared Allen, but this team also has Justin Houston.

I just don't see it the same way. We're not throwing away talent if we switch schemes. Justin Houston, playing as a 4-3 end, might be even better. He wouldn't waste any ****ing snaps dropping in coverage for sure.
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The talent is fine. It's the scheme more than anything.
There's zero 1-gap DL talent on this roster, with the one exception of Poe, who is a giant question mark.

ZERO.
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If we change schemes, we won't have the 15th ranked defense. That's the whole point.

The guys everybody wants to build around - Dorsey, Hali, DJ - were part of one of the worst 4-3 cover 2 defenses ever.
Exactly. I don't give a shit about rankings this year. We were terrible on offense, defense, special teams and out-coached everywhere.

The facts are that our top defensive talent (Hali, Dorsey, DJ) are best suited for the 3-4. Poe was drafted for the 3-4.
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And Hali and DJ were ALSO part of two 4-3 cover 2 defenses that were pretty decent in 06 and 07.

As decent as ANY defense Crennel put on the field.

And yes, those teams had Jared Allen, but this team also has Justin Houston.

I just don't see it the same way. We're not throwing away talent if we switch schemes. Justin Houston, playing as a 4-3 end, might be even better. He wouldn't waste any ****ing snaps dropping in coverage for sure.
DJ and Hali are all pro's in the 34 role and Houston very well could be. Poe is a wildcard but has alot of physical ability and showed ability to rush the passer.


Would Hali, DJ and Houston be as good in a 43?
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There's zero 1-gap DL talent on this roster, with the one exception of Poe, who is a giant question mark.

ZERO.
All the more reason switching schemes make no ****ing sense. You're basically advocating a switch to the Tampa 2. That's moronic on multiple levels and detrimental to the teams long term success.
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I do gota say our Defense was playing with 0 confidence! Knowing our offense wouldnt put up 7 had to affect them
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