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Old 01-04-2013, 11:28 AM  
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I Predict The 2013 QB's To Be

The Chiefs recognise that there needs to be a shakeout at the QB position. I'll go out on a limb and predict that the QB roster for 2013 will be, in no certain order.

1- Geno Smith I think the Chiefs will trade down about 10 spots, find him available, take him and pick up an extra pick.

2- Ricki Stanzi The guy must have some talent to remain on the roster. There is a history of skill position players blooming when they actually get a fair chance.

3- Alex Tanney Just on the strength of his arm he can make it in the NFL. Best part is we already have him.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:19 AM   #166
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Not imo. How much Practice is a #3 QB getting during the season?

If he can't make it to #2 in his 3rd season it's time for him to go.

Washington has 2 rookies as their top 2 QBs.
My point exactly. How can you equate what Stanzi has been through the last two years to what Cousins or even Foles has in their time in the NFL?

Stanzi looked damned good coming in as a rookie, with no offseason, and less than zero blocking. The guy truly made chicken salad out of chicken shit. Problem was, he couldn't throw it and catch it too.

Then, in comes the worst coaching staff in KC football history, new offense, spoon feeding the starter, and a backup who had played in the system for a year already. Meanwhile, Stanzi gets neglected and regresses. But somehow that's his fault.

EVERY QB ON THIS ROSTER REGRESSED THIS YEAR!
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:22 AM   #167
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Reid loves the OL. Luke Joeckel wii be #1.
The QB will be taken in Round 2. Tyler Bray wii be the pick.
why would he take a left tackle instead of just convincing Albert to stay?

Albert + Geno Smith >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just Joeckel.

If Reid lets Albert walk and passes on Geno (or another QB of his choosing) in favor of Drafting Joeckel...I'll eat a ghost chile.

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First, I'm not a Stanzi or Cousins Whisperer. I'm not.

I thought that Stanzi was an emotionally fragile bitch coming out. Unfair? Almost certainly. But this view was solidified in my mind when he checked down, at home, trailing, with time expiring and no TOs against Wisconsin (I believe).

Beautiful drive to this point. Ended by idiocy on the part of the QB. Now, one could argue that the back should have gotten out of bounds, blah, blah, blah. And maybe this is true. But the fact is that the trigger man put his teammate in a terrible place.

During the great Cassel wars of '10, I had and have no sympathy for idiocy from the QB position.

From my limited view, Cousins didn't hit these depths. Again, I didn't watch him play against NE Kansas City Tech, so I might be mistaken.

Too much stake in one play? Absolutely. Completely. But I never saw enough, even after this, to change my mind, even when Iowa bested my team in the bowl game later that season.
the trigger man put his back in position to get out of bounds to let Iowa line up for a 51 yard field goal with his team down 1 point.

Even milkman said he had no problem with the decision...he also said he thought Stanzi had "real potential" and at one time said parts of Stanzis game reminded him of a young Terry Bradshaw.

I wish the best for the kid for multiple reasons and hope he does well.

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True. But Stanzi doesn't need to be a priority in any way, shape, or form. If he is here fine. If not who cares. I do not want Reid coming in here thinking he has something to work with in Stanzi, thus passing up on a first overall pick QB, all because Stanzi has not yet gotten to continue proving his suckage on Sundays.

Some people are acting like it is some travesty that Stanzi hasn't gotten a fair shake when in reality, being Pioli's pick, if he was good even in the slightest he would have been playing in an attempt to save Pioli's job.


There is NOTHING that Stanzi has ever done to make ANYONE think he is a talent that would prohibit the selection of a at superior player with the top pick in an ensuing draft.

Just the proposed possibility of such is laughable.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:24 AM   #168
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My point exactly. How can you equate what Stanzi has been through the last two years to what Cousins or even Foles has in their time in the NFL?
What is your point? That keeping Stanzi on the roster for his 3rd year straight as the #3 QB makes sense?
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:25 AM   #169
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True. But Stanzi doesn't need to be a priority . in any way, shape, or form. If he is here fine. If not who cares. dmaybe this draft foo not want TO Reid coming in here thinking he has something to work with in Stanzi, thus passing up on a first overall pick QB, all because Stanzi has not yet gotten to continue proving his suckage on Sundays.

Some people are acting like it is some travesty that Stanzi hasn't gotten a fair shake when in reality, being Pioli's pick, if he was good even in the slightest he would have been playing in an attempt to save Pioli's job.
First of all. You have to be the dumbest mother****er even to post on this board if you think ANYONE on this forum would pass up on a QB in this draft for Stanzi. It is GENO #1 or bust.

Second, if you think Stanzi got any kind of fair shake you're a dumbass. Cassel is Pioli 63 million dollar baby, and Quinn is Romeo's first round hand picked QB. Once Clark took Pioli's power over the roster away, it was Quinn. Period.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:28 AM   #170
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What is your point? That keeping Stanzi on the roster for his 3rd year straight as the #3 QB makes sense?
It all comes down to if he makes the roster or not. If he does, Reid believes he has potential and maybe we can showcase Stanzi at some point for a trade in a year or two. If he cuts him, I hope the kid saved most of the money he has made.

Not many of us become millionaires with the level of ease Stanzi has.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:30 AM   #171
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What at at is your point. That keeping Stanzi on the roster for is 3rd year straight the #3 QB makes sense?
How can you act like Stanzi should have benefited or grown as a QB at all this year? Really. Name one reason why he should be better.

Was is Romeo's expertise, or Daboll's credentials that you are going off of?

Who was going to make him, or anyone a better QB?
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:31 AM   #172
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How can you act like Stanzi should have benefited or grown as a QB at all this year? Really. Name one reason why he should be better.

Was is Romeo's expertise, or Daboll's credentials that you are going off of?

Who was going to make him, or anyone a better QB?
How can you act like Stanzi deserves more time if a second coaching staff says he's not worth the backup spot in year 3?

#2 or ****ing cut him. He's got 2 years left on his contract.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:32 AM   #173
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Crennel traded up using two second rounders and a first to take Quinn iirc. Pioli traded a very high second rounder for Cassel and gave him a carbon copy of Aaron Rodgers contract (which is a clear sign that is how he saw Cassels talent level at the time )

Quinn and Cassel.

These were the chosen quarterbacks of these jackasses...I'm probably wrong about Stanzi and he will get cut...but if he doesn't, I like his chances.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:34 AM   #174
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You can't cry "source??!!? " when one posts his opinions. The "source" is my last post. FFS.

When you post that Pioil prevented RAC from starting a player, that's when you're called out.

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You point to his one choke and ignore his many late game comebacks and game winning drives...
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So Haley was allowed to play Palko to rub it in Pioli's face, but Stanzi was off-limits why? Logical inconsistency here if we're to disregard everything associated with the past season.
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You point to his one choke and ignore his many late game comebacks and game winning drives...
What is this? 2011?
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You point to his one choke and ignore his many late game comebacks and game winning drives...
I didn't ignore shit, which is exactly why I explicitly stated that my opinion may not be fair at all.

Based on my extremely limited exposure to Stanzi and Cousins, I wouldn't have drafted the former and would have considered the latter in the mid rounds, approximately where Stanzi was taken. I saw each play in 3 or so games per year.

Iowa fans have obviously seen shit tons more of this guy. But, as a Mizzou fan, it's important to limit one's exposure to ancillary sub-par football, and this is why I don't watch a lot of the Big X.
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How can you act like Stanzi deserves more time if a second coaching staff says he's not worth the backup spot in year 3?

#2 or ****ing cut him. He's got 2 years left on his contract.
WHAT THE MOTHER**** does him being the #3 have to do with him deserving the #2 if the team drafts Geno or any other rookie QB to be the franchise guy and CHOOSE to bring in a veteran to help along that rookie?

Jason Campbell, Michael Vick or any other guy ain't coming here to help along a rookie QB and sit at #3!

If they choose to bring in a veteran to help, he will be #2, PERIOD!
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So Haley was allowed to play Palko to rub it in Pioli's face, but Stanzi was off-limits why? Logical inconsistency here if we're to disregard everything associated with the past season.
Why was Hudson kept off the field in favor of Lilja as a rookie, even when he vastly outplayed him when he filled for an injury?
Same with Asamoah as a rookie when Lilja started at rg over him?
Why was Tom Brady inactive his rookie year?

Because of the failed farce that was just ushered out of town...that's why.

How many times did Vinny Testaverde get brought back for Parcells?

The veteran plays and the kid sits...that's their way.
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WHAT THE MOTHER**** does him being the #3 have to do with him deserving the #2 if the team drafts Geno or any other rookie QB to be the franchise guy and CHOOSE to bring in a veteran to help along that rookie?
He doesn't deserve the #2 spot. He either earns it or he needs to be cut. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
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