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Old 01-03-2013, 11:40 AM  
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Defense: Will We Still Be in the 3-4 in 2013?
Who will be the next DC?

Which players would be out of a job if we changed scheme?
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:19 AM   #91
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It'll be a "Denver style" 4-3

Jackson, Dorsey, Poe, Hali

Houston (Von's role), MLB, DJ
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:24 AM   #92
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You seriously don't think that Houston can put on 12 lbs? He's 12 lbs lighter than Jared Allen is right now. And 3 inches shorter.

Houston can damn sure play DE in a 4-3.
Sure he can put on 10 pounds. He could put on 50 too.

Will his pass rush skill be EXACTLY the same if he does?

Why **** with what's working?
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:39 AM   #93
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Who says we can't switch this shit up?

On 1st down, sometimes 2nd down.

DE-Tamba
DT-Poe
DT-Powe
DE-Jackson

On obvious passing downs

DE-Houston
DT-Poe
DT-Jackson
DE-Bailey

OLB-Houston-put him on the line and rush him.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:56 AM   #94
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Who says we can't switch this shit up?

On 1st down, sometimes 2nd down.

DE-Tamba
DT-Poe
DT-Powe
DE-Jackson

On obvious passing downs

DE-Houston
DT-Poe
DT-Jackson
DE-Bailey

OLB-Houston-put him on the line and rush him.
The coaches being talked about right now aren't "switch it up" coaches.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:00 AM   #95
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The coaches being talked about right now aren't "switch it up" coaches.
Yup. That's what PGM was talking about. I'd be fine with the 4-3, if we decided on a hybrid type defense. But we're either going to convert to a Tampa 2 or probably a traditional 4-3 with 2 DEs with their hands on the ground and 3 OLBs who are your traditional sideline-to-sideline type guys. The guys we're looking at have great experience in one defense, but haven't been innovators or guys who do anything but that traditional look.

That's the problem. Rivera is a guy who proved he can flex scheme. Other guys, especially Monte Kiffin... those guys have not.
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The coaches being talked about right now aren't "switch it up" coaches.
They are 4-3 coaches though. Get ready because it's coming, whether you like it or not.
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They are 4-3 coaches though. Get ready because it's coming, whether you like it or not.
I agree, but if we're going with milkman's comment about Pioli... this is essentially what we're doing. We are making our players fit a scheme instead of the scheme fitting players. And quite possibly, if we hire Monte Kiffin, we're forcing them into an obsolete scheme. Isn't that exactly what we did with Pioli, where we had good enough talent to start running a 43 and he instead forced not only a 34, but a 2-gap system that was becoming obsolete?
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They are 4-3 coaches though. Get ready because it's coming, whether you like it or not.
That's why we are having this discussion.
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Yup. That's what PGM was talking about. I'd be fine with the 4-3, if we decided on a hybrid type defense. But we're either going to convert to a Tampa 2 or probably a traditional 4-3 with 2 DEs with their hands on the ground and 3 OLBs who are your traditional sideline-to-sideline type guys. The guys we're looking at have great experience in one defense, but haven't been innovators or guys who do anything but that traditional look.

That's the problem. Rivera is a guy who proved he can flex scheme. Other guys, especially Monte Kiffin... those guys have not.
Just throwing shit out there man. Of course it would be nice to have a coordinator fit these talented players into a friendly scheme for them.
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I'd like to go back to the 43 if not for any other reason but it's not the Pioliass way.
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I'd like to go back to the 43 if not for any other reason but it's not the Pioliass way.
That's kind of silly.
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If anyone lives in Carolina, try and cause Rivera to be late to his meeting.
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Just throwing shit out there man. Of course it would be nice to have a coordinator fit these talented players into a friendly scheme for them.
No, I'm with you. I like your idea a lot. If that's the route we go, that's great. I just don't think that's the route we're going. I hope I'm wrong.
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Just throwing shit out there man. Of course it would be nice to have a coordinator fit these talented players into a friendly scheme for them.
As I've said before, go find a guy who can run the 46.

We've got a damn near perfect situation for running that type of defense in terms of personel.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:42 AM   #105
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Sounds like it won't be Rivera as he is likely to stay with Carolina.
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