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Old 10-31-2012, 06:50 PM  
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We better draft this mother****er

With the 33rd pick in the NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select...Stedman Bailey.

Last year: 12 TD's, 1,279 yards
So far this year: 14 TD's, 800 yards (on pace for 22 TD's and 1,450 yards)

I don't give a shit if Bowe is here or not next year. Draft this mother****er. Great hands, great speed, crisp route runner, BAMF. Can play in the slot or on the outside.

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Old 01-06-2013, 02:16 PM   #46
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Why would anyone advocate taking a receiver before his official 40 time at The Combines?
Because we're football fans and it's fun to speculate and argue?
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:18 PM   #47
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Well, if we are staying in a 34, the ILB next to DJ doesn't have to be a high rounder. Shane Skov in the 3rd or 4th would be a perfect fit. And the FS doesn't have to be a high pick either, we don't really need all pros everywhere.


Jackson and Cassel are coming off the books, we've got money.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:19 PM   #48
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Because we're football fans and it's fun to speculate and argue?
Then I guess the entire forum has changed because just a few short years ago when Hamas, Mecca, OTWP58 and I did that very same thing (albeit, mostly after The Combines), we were all chastised on a daily basis and confronted with "If YOU know so much, why are YOU working for an NFL team?".

Neato.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:20 PM   #49
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Then I guess the entire forum has changed because just a few short years ago when Hamas, Mecca, OTWP58 and I did that very same thing (albeit, mostly after The Combines), we were all chastised on a daily basis and confronted with "If YOU know so much, why are YOU working for an NFL team?".

Neato.
Yeah, it's changed alot.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:21 PM   #50
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Well, if we are staying in a 34, the ILB next to DJ doesn't have to be a high rounder. Shane Skov in the 3rd or 4th would be a perfect fit. And the FS doesn't have to be a high pick either, we don't really need all pros everywhere.


Jackson and Cassel are coming off the books, we've got money.
It shouldn't be about "having money", it should be about the BPA for each position and drafting for the future.

Kendrick Lewis is about as dependable as a 1976 AMC Pacer and Abe Elam is done. The Chiefs need at least one safety from the draft and one in free agency. ILB is also a must.

Otherwise, the Chiefs are going to lose at lot of games 41-38.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:23 PM   #51
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It shouldn't be about "having money", it should be about the BPA for each position and drafting for the future.

Kendrick Lewis is about as dependable as a 1976 AMC Pacer and Abe Elam is done. The Chiefs need at least one safety from the draft and one in free agency. ILB is also a must.

Otherwise, the Chiefs are going to lose at lot of games 41-38.
Eh, ILB isn't a MUST, it's a need though. Again, I think Skov from Stanford in the 3rd or 4th would be a great pick.

I think Lewis was hurt all year, but we definitely need more depth back there.


I was actually a little bit impressed with Tyson Hartman late in the year on the back end.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:24 PM   #52
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It shouldn't be about "having money", it should be about the BPA for each position and drafting for the future.

Kendrick Lewis is about as dependable as a 1976 AMC Pacer and Abe Elam is done. The Chiefs need at least one safety from the draft and one in free agency. ILB is also a must.

Otherwise, the Chiefs are going to lose at lot of games 41-38.
And Maclin just turned 24. I don't think we could get a player of that quality in the third round and if we have two 3rd rounders, it could be an idea.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:25 PM   #53
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Eh, ILB isn't a MUST, it's a need though. Again, I think Skov from Stanford in the 3rd or 4th would be a great pick.
So you're heading into 2013 with Derrick Johnson and Brandon Silar as your ILB?

Yeah, good luck with that.

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I think Lewis was hurt all year, but we definitely need more depth back there.

I was actually a little bit impressed with Tyson Hartman late in the year on the back end.
The secondary, outside of Berry and Flowers, sucked ass. The turnover won't happen in one offseason but there needs to be serious changes, if the Chiefs plan to compete for even 8-8 next year.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:26 PM   #54
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And Maclin just turned 24. I don't think we could get a player of that quality in the third round and if we have two 3rd rounders, it could be an idea.
First off, why would Philly trade him? Secondly, you're better off drafting a guy to compete with Bowe, Breaston and Baldwin than trading for a guy.

If Bowe re-signs, WR is the least of the Chiefs immediate needs.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #55
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No.

Where's your starting ILB next to Johnson? Where's your starting safety opposite Berry?

There are plenty of receiving options available. Trading for Maclin and handing him a big contract would be dumb.
1) Geno Smith, QB
2) Xavior Rhodes, CB
3a) Stedman Bailey, WR
3b) Shayne Skov, ILB
4) Zac Dysert/EJ Manuel/Landry Jones, QB
5) Zeke Motta, S
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #56
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1) Geno Smith, QB
2) Xavior Rhodes, CB
3a) Stedman Bailey, WR
3b) Shayne Skov, ILB
4) Zac Dysert/EJ Manuel/Landry Jones, QB
5) Zeke Motta, S
I'd be cool with this
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:29 PM   #57
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So you're heading into 2013 with Derrick Johnson and Brandon Silar as your ILB?

Yeah, good luck with that.



The secondary, outside of Berry and Flowers, sucked ass. The turnover won't happen in one offseason but there needs to be serious changes, if the Chiefs plan to compete for even 8-8 next year.
Siler? No. I just gave you an example of a guy who is, IMO, just as good as Teo skill wise at ILB.

There will be alot of turnover, but you don't have to sink high draft picks on every spot to get a good player.

Obviously, we have to lock up Bowe and Albert. But we are also going to have Jacksons money and Cassels money to use.

There are some intriguing options at FS in this years Free agency class that I would look at. Not specifically pay a guy high money, but for depth wouldn't be a bad idea.

There's always Byrd, from Buffalo, who is a great FS and young.
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First off, why would Philly trade him? Secondly, you're better off drafting a guy to compete with Bowe, Breaston and Baldwin than trading for a guy.

If Bowe re-signs, WR is the least of the Chiefs immediate needs.
This is the last year on his contract, and they've stated they aren't re signing him.


I like Baldwin alot more than others here, I think he still has a purpose, but I also would like to have a speed guy, like Maclin.
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1) Geno Smith, QB
2) Xavior Rhodes, CB
3a) Stedman Bailey, WR
3b) Shayne Skov, ILB
4) Zac Dysert/EJ Manuel/Landry Jones, QB
5) Zeke Motta, S
If the draft fell like that, we'd be set with 4 potential starters in the first four rounds.


Would be epic.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:32 PM   #60
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Speaking of the draft, when can we move draft planet back to the front page?
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