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Old 01-06-2013, 05:39 AM  
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Chiefs cap room for 2013

How much do we have ATM? I know it has been addressed recently in another post nut I can't seem to find it. Lets assume we cut Jackson and Cassel outright.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:43 PM   #31
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I'm guessing some players earned player incentive in 2012 that will count vs 2013 cap.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:49 PM   #32
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:51 PM   #33
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The cap is irrelevant.

It's all about guaranteed money, i.e., upfront bonuses.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:52 PM   #34
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The crazy thing is that with the new CBA, we're going to be paying a #1 QB 1/3rd of what Cassel made...dramatically improving QB play at 1/3rd the price.

Now THAT's the process.
I completely forgot about the CBA. I was just thinking how ****ed we were going to be after signing the number one overall pick.

I'm not entirely familiar with the salary cap process in the NFL. I know there are a lot of stipulations on how it works. My understanding of it is rather rudimentary though. I'm sure Cassel is due to hit a high number...so cutting him could save us a lot of $$$ this upcoming season. At the very least, we could restructure him to that of someone playing third string, which suits his talent level far better than number one overall. Also Jackson is due for some ungodly amount like $15 million. Restructuring his contract or outright cutting him should be something to consider.

You can't help but wonder what exactly Scott 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' Pioli was thinking by signing Cassel to a $63 million contract. And giving up a second for that steaming pile of suck? lol Good bye Scott 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' Pioli!!!! Thats right up there with taking Tyson Jackson third overall... The Chiefs have a SIGNIFICANTLY brighter future now that he is gone.

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Old 01-06-2013, 04:24 PM   #35
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Tyson Jacksonís contract
2009 $2,860,000 Cap Hit
2010 $3,575,000 Cap Hit
2011 $11,240,000 Cap Hit
2012 $6,775,000 Cap Hit $24,550,000 paid so far.
2013 $17,245,000 Cap Hit

ChiefsGator already pointed out that we donít save 17 million by cutting Jackson. Tyson has a $31 million guarantee, so we donít save $17,245,000 by just cutting Jackson.

If Jackson fits into the new Chiefs defense, maybe they can renegotiate a new contract.
I am not saying you are incorrect or anything. But I would like a link to this.
If we have to pay Jackson that kind of money whether we cut him or not. He will stay and it is just another reason to hate Pioli.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:35 PM   #36
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I am not saying you are incorrect or anything. But I would like a link to this.
If we have to pay Jackson that kind of money whether we cut him or not. He will stay and it is just another reason to hate 'Team-killer' Pioli.
Wilson8's information is incorrect.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:35 PM   #37
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:39 PM   #38
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"Jackson's 2013 base salary remains at $14.72 million, $3.22 million of which is guaranteed for injury and cap."

http://www.macsfootballblog.com/2012...-contract.html

So, we could save $14.72 million perhaps. I heard a figure of $11 million somewhere else though. Either way, we save a lot cutting him, so I'm sure it happens or he restructures again.

But, we aren't going to clear quite as much as some around here hope.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:40 PM   #39
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We won't cut him until after the league season starts unless they want to eat it all. If they cut him later, they can spread the cap hit over 2 years.
I don't think this is right.

That's his salary for the 2013 season.

It is NOT guaranteed. His guaranteed money is GONE and already paid out. $28 million. He has already made like $40 million as a Chief.

We cut him tomorrow owe him nothing, no cap hit.
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Question: Can we still spread the cap hit across two years? This upcoming year is now his last, since the 2014 year was cut off his contract with the restructure. If not, then we can cut him sooner, rather than later.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:43 PM   #41
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The Kansas City Chiefs could decide to part ways with QB Matt Cassel after this season and not suffer from a significant cap hit. The Chiefs have already paid Cassel $40.5 million over the first three years of a six-year deal and only have modest base salaries remaining. As a result, the team can make a move and still have plenty of money left over.
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Jackson cut chiefs only on the hook for 3.2m
Cassel cut chiefs only on the hook for around 3.5m
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I don't think this is right.

That's his salary for the 2013 season.

It is NOT guaranteed. His guaranteed money is GONE and already paid out. $28 million. He has already made like $40 million as a Chief.

We cut him tomorrow owe him nothing, no cap hit.
Plus, teams can no longer spread a cap hit over two seasons.

That ended in 2009, IIRC.
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I don't think this is right.

That's his salary for the 2013 season.

It is NOT guaranteed. His guaranteed money is GONE and already paid out. $28 million. He has already made like $40 million as a Chief.

We cut him tomorrow owe him nothing, no cap hit.
His original contract was about $31 million guaranteed I believe.. so that makes sense that about $3 mill remains.

Actually, it appears he has only made about $24 million, per this site. This year is the crazy one though.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...tyson-jackson/
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Question: Can we still spread the cap hit across two years?
No. That ended before the uncapped year of 2010 and with the new CBA in 2011.
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