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displacedinMN · 08:32 AM

This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get.
This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts.

Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre
By Jana Hollingsworth
Duluth News Tribune
Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST
Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST

A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university.

Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact.

UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university.

Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless.

Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama,
in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook."

Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel."

The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment."

Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university.

"There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability."

Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said.

But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website.

"For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view."

"I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous."

Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006.

He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks.

As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us."

KChiefer · 01-06-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Yes, it involves the fathers of both shooters.

Amazing coincidence isn't it?

The amazing part is A) people accepting totally unsubstantiated rumors, B) people thinking "mind-control mass shootings" by someone's child would have any bearing on testimony in a financial scandal.

cosmo20002 · 01-06-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Have you ever read the released CIA docs on Project Artichoke and MKUltra?

Hell, MKUltra is the entire basis for Jason Bourne.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

I see stuff mostly relating to interrogation and extracting info.
If this was a CIA operation to ban guns, it was pretty shitty plan.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

You are almost as stupid as CoMo.

Nice to see the welfare scum chime in.

KC native · 01-06-2013, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Nice to see the welfare scum chime in.

I work. I know it's hard to process in your simple little mind, but just because people believe in a social safety net doesn't mean they use it.

The fact that you even entertain thoughts that the government could use a mass shooting like that as a psy op to confiscate guns says everything about your lack of mental capacity.

KC native · 01-06-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam

Whats up you lil maggot ? Fist ****ed yourself lately?

I see you're still training your kid for a life on the pole.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

I work. I know it's hard to process in your simple little mind, but just because people believe in a social safety net doesn't mean they use it.

The fact that you even entertain thoughts that the government could use a mass shooting like that as a psy op to confiscate guns says everything about your lack of mental capacity.

Was that you that changed my oil last month?

And the fact that you are such a complete ****ing idiot sheep says everything anybody needs to know about you.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-06-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I certainly don't want to believe this crap.

Great, you don't have to; you're not a ****ing idiot.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 06:44 PM

Nice to know we live in a country where the government has never done secret, evil things to its citizens before....

KC native · 01-06-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Was that you that changed my oil last month?

And the fact that you are such a complete ****ing idiot sheep says everything anybody needs to know about you.

You know what's funny about these posts?

You used to get on failpuss and shtspryr for posting racist shit (and acted like you were better than them). Now you've joined the club. Congrats on being a miserable, racist, fat ass with low intellectual ability.

KC native · 01-06-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Great, you don't have to; you're not a ****ing idiot.

Yes, he is. His hysterics in the aftermath of Newton shootings have shown that he very much is an idiot.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

You know what's funny about these posts?

You used to get on failpuss and shtspryr for posting racist shit (and acted like you were better than them). Now you've joined the club. Congrats on being a miserable, racist, fat ass with low intellectual ability.

What, you think a white man can't change oil on a car? Racist!

I mainly enjoy pushing your buttons, ****. Your squealing makes me laugh.

KChiefer · 01-06-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Great, you don't have to; you're not a ****ing idiot.

Well, he believes Lanza didn't use the bushmaster because youtube says so...that's pretty idiotic.

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Originally Posted by frazod

They found it in the car. Either he put it back in the car, went back inside and then killed himself, or he didn't use it at all and the media doesn't dare correct their mistake. Probably on orders from their government masters.

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

based in what you know so far, which of those would you think actually happened?

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

I'd take option B.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...77&postcount=9

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

Yes, he is. His hysterics in the aftermath of Newton shootings have shown that he very much is an idiot.

I can barely wrap my mind around the irony of this bullshit statement.

OH MY GOD 70 PEOPLE OUT OF 313,000,000 WERE KILLED IN MASS SHOOTINGS LAST YEAR!!! CONFISCATE ALL THE GUNZ SO I'LL BE SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're so ****ing dumb that you can't even be dumb correctly.

**frazod** · 01-06-2013, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer

Well, he believes Lanza didn't use the bushmaster because youtube says so...that's pretty idiotic.

No, I believe the cop who said he found the gun in the car initially, ****tard.

Or do you think he mistook an umbrella for a rifle?

listopencil · 01-06-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Bullshit, that's 100% acting. He was joking around and laughing just seconds right before he started talking. I dont buy anxiety attack for one second...used to date someone who had anxiety attacks a lot.

So your date never laughed or joked? Sounds like a fun date.

01-05-2013, 08:26 AM
displacedinMN Starter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $11211	Newtown shooting theory-the government did it. This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get. This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts. Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre By Jana Hollingsworth Duluth News Tribune Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings. In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university. Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact. UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university. Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless. Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama, in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook." Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel." The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment." Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university. "There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability." Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said. But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website. "For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view." "I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous." Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006. He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks. As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us." Last edited by displacedinMN; 01-05-2013 at 08:32 AM..
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