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Old 01-04-2012, 09:08 PM  
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***Offical 2012 STL Cardinals World Champions Thread ***

St. Louis Cardinals: 7 reasons fans should feel good about 2012

Posted Wednesday, October 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM

St. Louis Cardinals fans are likely feeling deflated after the collapse that put an end to the team's dreams of a World Series repeat, but there is good reason to be excited.

With all of the odds against them, the Cardinals managed to push their 2012 season beyond any anticipated boundary.

Given all of the season's changes and the adversity the team had to fight through, the fact that they played in October at all was an anomaly in itself. On paper, it made sense for the Cardinals to be in the playoffs, but few saw them as a true threat.
As the season continued, even fans began to doubt as they watched the team seemingly crumble in June and July. When the Cardinals finally came to life in September they went 11-5 in the last 16 games of the season to lock up the second Wild Card position in its inaugural year.

That run, despite it's crushing end in Cincinnati in Game 7 of the National League Championship Series, lots of good came from the Cardinals' season and playoff run.
Following in no particular order are 10 reasons Cardinals fans have to be excited about the 2013 season.

Trevor Rosenthal
When rookie fireballer Trevor Rosenthal made his first trip to St. Louis, it was obvious almost instantly that he was something special.
Between his 100 mph fastball and the general inability for almost anyone to hit off of him, he became a huge part of the Cardinals playoff run.

He pitched in a total of 19 regular season games before the 22-year-old rookie from Lee's Summit, Mo. got his first taste of postseason baseball and he put on quite a show.
In 8.2 IP over seven postseason appearances, Rosenthal held opponents to only two hits and no runs.
It's possible that down the stretch he may have already earned his spot in the rotation for 2013.

Shelby Miller
The long-coveted fastball pitching prospect Shelby Miller also made his first trip to St. Louis in 2012 and put on a good show.
In 13.2 IP over six regular season games, Miller surrendered only two runs on nine hits. His postseason performance was more of the same with two runs on four hits in 3.2 IP.

Despite a dismal first half of the season in Memphis, Miller got himself together and still managed to make one major league start before the end of the season -- a very impressive start at that.
Against the Cincinnati Reds in the final game of the regular season, Miller posted 5.2 hitless innings. He gave up no runs and collected his first major league win.

Expect to see a lot more of Miller in St. Louis early in 2013.

Joe Kelly
When Joe Kelly made his major league debut on June 10, few could have guessed the importance he would play throughout the remainder of the 2012 season.
Kelly started 16 games for the Cardinals this season filling in for Jaime Garcia and Lance Lynn, but it was the postseason when he really came through for his teammates.

When starting pitchers struggled time and again in October, it was Kelly who came to their rescue.
In seven postseason appearances, Kelly threw 7.2 innings and surrendered only two runs on six hits. Kelly came through for the Cardinals from the bullpen.
There's a good chance that could be his home in the future.

Mike Matheny
When the Cardinals hired Mike Matheny to take over for Tony LaRussa, many question bringing in a manager with no experience to such a storied franchise.

He had a few hiccups and growing pains along the way, but for a rookie manager to get his team where Matheny did this year speaks volumes.
His players have a strong respect for Matheny and credit his positive style with being a driving force behind their 2012 success.
True, he didn't get them through the NLCS, but the team made it to an all or nothing Game 7. That's good experience for the players obviously, but also for Matheny. Not only did he learn a lot about managing in the media pressure cooker that is postseason baseball, he also got a taste of what it felt like to win as a manager.

NLCS loss means more drive to win
While the NLCS loss was a good lesson for a young manager, it's an even more important lesson for a young player.
The 2011 championship lit a fire under young players like Lance Lynn and Jon Jay. That fire helped drive them to extremely successful sophomore seasons.

What happened in 2012 will likely do the same for Rosenthal, Miller and Kelly. Their 2013 season may not be like Jay or Lynn's 2012, but now they've gotten a little taste of what it feels like to be a winner.

Both the excitement and the public humbling can be a great experience for any young player.

The run was without several key components
In a season riddled with injuries, none were as crucial as those late in the season.
The loss of Lance Berkman and Rafael Furcal significantly weakened the team's bench. Instead of having Pete Kozma, Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter to pinch hit, the team wound up having to use them in the lineup.

The loss of Jaime Garcia and Jake Westbrook also rocked the Cardinals. Instead of having Lynn and Westbrook also available from the bullpen, Lynn was pushed back into the rotation after a very successful NLDS bullpen stint.

Having gotten as deep into the playoffs as the Cardinals did in spite of the injuries is quite the accomplishment.

They did it without Pujols, LaRussa and Duncan
Few in the world of sports gave the Cardinals a fighting chance when Albert Pujols left the team to play on the west coast. Surely this team couldn't be as good as they were?

Few gave them a chance after longtime manager Tony LaRussa decided it was time to retire.
Few gave them a chance after pitching coach Dave Duncan left the team.
The Cardinals did it despite all of that. That's something any fan should be proud of.

No, they didn't hoist a trophy. There will be no parade or tickertape.
What there is, though, is hope for next year and that will come sooner than you may think.
After all, pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training in just four short months.

From a blog I was sent on twitter: http://www.dailystatesman.com/blogs/...es/entry/50051

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And also, nobody else here gives two ****s about them, and that's not likely to change, ever.
Somebody's still bitter. GO GIANTS!!!!!!

I will find out in the next 2 weeks if we are moving my firm just a few blocks away from Pac Bell Park. That would rock!!!!! You should come out for a game. You would like the city, tons of women and half the dudes are gay. Can't get better food anywhere.
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Dude, I am so stoked. The Giants had never done a damn thing and then BAM 2 out of 3 years in spectacular fasion. Very cool.
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Somebody's still bitter. GO GIANTS!!!!!!

I will find out in the next 2 weeks if we are moving my firm just a few blocks away from Pac Bell Park. That would rock!!!!! You should come out for a game. You would like the city, tons of women and half the dudes are gay. Can't get better food anywhere.
No, the point is most of us didn't jump on every local winning bandwagon after we moved.

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No, the point is most of us didn't jump on every local winning bandwagon after we moved.

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Considering I came from Southern Oregon The Giants were my team since being a kid. I became a Lakers fan because of being a Bucks fan as a young boy and the progression that took place there. I am not the worlds biggest anything fan but I do like the Giants, Lakers, Sharks and our Chiefs more than any other pro sports team. If that makes me bandwagon in your eyes so be it. Truth is none of my teams other than the Lakers ever did shit until recently. BTW, I will even pick up yur ticket if you come out Mr. Bitter.
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Considering I came from Southern Oregon The Giants were my team since being a kid. I became a Lakers fan because of being a Bucks fan as a young boy and the progression that took place there. I am not the worlds biggest anything fan but I do like the Giants, Lakers, Sharks and our Chiefs more than any other pro sports team. If that makes me bandwagon in your eyes so be it. Truth is none of my teams other than the Lakers ever did shit until recently. BTW, I will even pick up yur ticket if you come out Mr. Bitter.
How does being a Bucks fan as a child make one a Lakers fan later? Wouldn't you still root for the Bucks? I mean, I don't follow basketball, but I'm pretty sure the Bucks still play in Milwaukee, which is nowhere near Oregon. And I'm also pretty sure Oregon is nowhere near Kansas City, either. Or did you burn all your San Francisco stuff and come over with Montana? I guess that hasn't worked out very well for you, has it?

And I'm not bitter. It's just funny that you expect anybody else here to give a crap about the Giants. Perhaps you should start your own Giants thread. Maybe you'd be happier. You might even pick up a bandwaggoner or two.
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How does being a Bucks fan as a child make one a Lakers fan later? Wouldn't you still root for the Bucks? I mean, I don't follow basketball, but I'm pretty sure the Bucks still play in Milwaukee, which is nowhere near Oregon. And I'm also pretty sure Oregon is nowhere near Kansas City, either. Or did you burn all your San Francisco stuff and come over with Montana? I guess that hasn't worked out very well for you, has it?

And I'm not bitter. It's just funny that you expect anybody else here to give a crap about the Giants. Perhaps you should start your own Giants thread. Maybe you'd be happier. You might even pick up a bandwaggoner or two.
I was born in KC and being raised in Oregon we didn't have a team so I identified with that team at a young age. When Kareem went to LA as a child it was easy to follow him being that was who I tried to play like being a taller kid. YOu act like you haven't seen me on this BB for well over a decade routing for the same teams all of them except the Lakes consistently losing until recently. BTW I started my own Giants thread but nobody would post in them.
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I was born in KC and being raised in Oregon we didn't have a team so I identified with that team at a young age. When Kareem went to LA as a child it was easy to follow him being that was who I tried to play like being a taller kid. YOu act like you haven't seen me on this BB for well over a decade routing for the same teams all of them except the Lakes consistently losing until recently. BTW I started my own Giants thread but nobody would post in them.
Gee, can't imagine why.
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Well, not really a SF bandwagoner, but butthurt Royals fans might chime in. They're cute.
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Well according to you it's because we are all a bunch of homos.
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Well, I guess that doesn't help much.
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Well, I guess that doesn't help much.
It's not every day you offer up a ticket to come see the champs in an awesome ballpark and get called a bandwagon homo in return. That's about as ridiculous as me calling you the same thing. What a drama queen.
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