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Old 01-05-2013, 08:26 AM  
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Newtown shooting theory-the government did it.

This was in the St. Paul paper this morning. I don't know how much press it will get.
This will make everyone throw up. This guy must be completely nuts.


Retired UMD professor theorizes that government behind Newtown massacre
By Jana Hollingsworth
Duluth News Tribune
Posted: 01/04/2013 12:01:00 AM CST
Updated: 01/04/2013 06:19:15 PM CST


A retired University of Minnesota-Duluth professor known for his conspiracy theories on John F. Kennedy's assassination, the 9/11 attacks and the Paul Wellstone plane crash has found himself in the news again -- this time for claiming the U.S. government was involved in the Newtown, Conn., school shootings.

In his online writings, James Fetzer cites chief among his credentials his ties to UMD, a fact lamented by at least one professor at another university.

Fetzer, also an author and former Marine Corps officer, claims in an online journal that Israeli Mossad death squads and the U.S. government might have been behind the school shootings in Connecticut. At the end of his piece, Fetzer describes himself as an emeritus professor at UMD, and he uses his UMD e-mail address as his contact.

UMD officials say Fetzer has the right to express his views -- but he also has the responsibility to make clear he's not speaking for the university.

Other retired UMD faculty members have been identified as emeriti when writing opinion pieces in the pages of the News Tribune, including physician Robert Goldish and American Indian studies professor Robert Powless.

Fetzer's Newtown conspiracy theory earned him a mention by writer Michael Moynihan in the online magazine "Daily Beast," an article titled: "Newtown Conspiracy Theories: Obama, Iran, and Other Culprits." Beneath that, a secondary headline reads: "The government was behind the school massacre. Wait, it was Obama,
in a ruse to take our guns away. No, it was Iran! Israel! Batman! Michael Moynihan on the paranoid wing's 'real truth' about Sandy Hook."

Fetzer writes in his online column, published on "Press TV and "Veterans Today": "The Sandy Hook massacre appears to have been a psy op intended to strike fear in the hearts of Americans by the sheer brutality of the massacre, where the killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel."

The act, Fetzer said in an interview with the News Tribune, "is part of an escalating series of covert operations intended to create hysteria in the American people in order to support gun control legislation that completely subverts the Second Amendment."

Fetzer lists his UMD e-mail address as the way for readers to contact him, which was granted to him as part of his retirement package. He says he doesn't speak for UMD and that UMD hasn't suggested he refrain from connecting himself to the university.

"There is something called freedom of research, freedom of inquiry," he said, "which the University of Minnesota has respected. I can't imagine why any university would want to discourage its faculty from exercising their independent thought and critical reasoning ability."

Faculty, including faculty emeriti, are protected by the Regents Policy on Academic Freedom and Responsibility, according to Andrea Schokker, executive vice chancellor of academic affairs at UMD. The policy protects the freedom of creative expression and to speak or write on matters of public interest without institutional discipline or restraint. That comes with the responsibility to make it clear that one isn't speaking for the institution, she said.

But to the average person who reads the Fetzer piece, it appears Fetzer represents UMD, said Donna Halper, an associate professor of communication at Lesley University in Cambridge, Mass. Fetzer identifies himself as a UMD professor emeritus and notes his faculty page on UMD's website.

"For a professor to be spreading stereotypes under the guise of academic freedom is profoundly disappointing," said Halper, whose earlier career in radio led her to Duluth several times. She found Duluth to be tolerant and compassionate, she said, and she was surprised to read Fetzer's work, which she classified as a "fringe view."

"I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to speak, but ... when it comes from a professor, it makes me wonder: What did he teach his students?" asked Halper, who teaches courses on philosophy and communication ethics. "Here you have someone who is allegedly an educated person spreading such uneducated opinions in the name of Duluth. That's outrageous."

Fetzer, of Oregon, Wis., and a professor of philosophy, spent 35 years teaching at universities, 19 of those years at UMD. He was awarded a McKnight Professorship from the University of Minnesota in 1996, which included a $100,000 research grant. He retired from UMD in 2006.

He has an Internet radio show, has written more than two dozen books and has become a well-known voice among those who claim that Kennedy was assassinated by his own government. He also theorizes that the U.S. government was involved in the Wellstone plane crash and the 9/11 attacks.

As a philosopher, Fetzer said, he cares about the truth, and his scientific research has revealed that "the government lies to us."

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Old 01-06-2013, 07:27 PM   #91
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I love the spastic redirections when you realize your attempted "trolling" doesn't work.

I love the fact that you think you're trolling me or pushing my buttons even more. You have been a hysterical whining bitch about all of these arguments. You aren't pushing anyone's buttons.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:33 PM   #92
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I love the spastic redirections when you realize your attempted "trolling" doesn't work.

I love the fact that you think you're trolling me or pushing my buttons even more. You have been a hysterical whining bitch about all of these arguments. You aren't pushing anyone's buttons.
You can't troll a troll, dumb****. You're one of the biggest pieces of shit ever to sully this board with your presence. Your contempt for most of the people here, your pathetic insecurities, your screaming inferiority complex, your raging idiocy - I'd pity you if you weren't such a complete turd.

It's hard to have a reasonable, intelligent debate with a hateful, sniping prick. There may be a way to do it, but I'm just not that charitable.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:40 PM   #93
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Still better than hanging my hat on a youtube video of a lone officer's statement when initial information ran the gambit of who/what was involved.

And when the report says he used it, what are you left with? Oh yeah, "It's a government/media conspiracy!!! Just like how the moon landing was filmed in a bunker beneath the grassy knoll!!!"
Well, since I'm not a ****ing sheep, I'm left wondering why there was a discrepancy. Perhaps it was a mistake. I'd prefer that it was a mistake. But what if it wasn't? Are you some malleable that you'll believe anything "official" because a government official said it?

Were you there? Did you see the AR15 next to the killer's body in the school?

No?

Then you don't what happened, do you?

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Old 01-06-2013, 07:42 PM   #94
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You can't troll a troll, dumb****. You're one of the biggest pieces of shit ever to sully this board with your presence. Your contempt for most of the people here, your pathetic insecurities, your screaming inferiority complex, your raging idiocy - I'd pity you if you weren't such a complete turd.

It's hard to have a reasonable, intelligent debate with a hateful, sniping prick. There may be a way to do it, but I'm just not that charitable.
And here comes the holier than thou Frazod post. You are so predictable.

The disconnect between how you perceive yourself and the reality of the vile shit you post towards people is hilarious. You are miserable fat ass and everyone can tell.
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And here comes the holier than thou Frazod post. You are so predictable.

The disconnect between how you perceive yourself and the reality of the vile shit you post towards people is hilarious. You are miserable fat ass and everyone can tell.
I just don't suffer scum like you. As a result, it's not surprising that other scumbags don't like me. I've said it before - if you didn't despise me, I'd be worried.

As for most of the people who post here, I get along with them just fine.

How many real-life friends have you made as a result of posting here?
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:51 PM   #96
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I have. It didn't look like that. The person who had one said it felt like it was a mild heart attack. Don't know why. Just what he said.
There are multiple symptoms involved in an anxiety attack. Here are some:

Common anxiety attack symptoms include:
  • A feeling of impending doom, that something horrible is about to happen, that you are in grave danger
  • A strong feeling of fear, foreboding
  • An urge to escape, to get out, to run away from danger
  • Blanching, turning white, looking pale
  • Blushing, skin blotches, turning red
  • Burning skin
  • Choking sensation, tightening throat, it feels like your throat is closing
  • Confusion
  • Depersonalization (feeling detached from reality, separate from one-self, separate from normal emotions)
  • Derealization (feeling unreal, in a dream-like state)
  • Dizziness, lightheadedness, unsteadiness
  • Emotional distress
  • Emotional upset
  • Fear of going crazy
  • Fear of losing control, freaking out
  • Fearful thoughts that seem incessant
    Feels like there is a tight band around your head
  • Hot or cold chills
  • Inability to calm yourself down
  • Knot in the stomach, tight stomach
  • Nausea
  • Numbness, tingling sensations in any part of the body
  • Panicky feeling
  • Pins and needles feeling
  • Plugged ear(s), stuffed ear(s)
  • Pounding heart
  • Racing heart
  • Shooting pains in the chest, neck, shoulder, head, or face
  • Shortness of breath, difficulty breathing
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  • Upset stomach
  • Urgent desire to go to the bathroom (urinate, defecate)
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In a situation leading up to an anxiety attack a person can go from perfectly fine to exhibiting those symptoms very, very quickly. You can also bounce back and forth between outwardly "normal" and symptomatic almost instantly, leaving nothing but the residual effects of adrenaline overload. It looks to me like he was trying to keep his mind off of the speach he was about to make because he knew what it was going to do to him, not laughing and joking then getting into character.
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Well, since I'm not a ****ing sheep, I'm left wondering why there was a discrepancy. Perhaps it was a mistake. I'd prefer that it was a mistake. But what if it wasn't? Are you some malleable that you'll believe anything "official" because a government official said it?

Were you there? Did you see the AR15 next to the killer's body in the school?

No?

Then you don't what happened, do you?

Nice to see you're digging a tunnel for yourself into, "Oh, they made a mistake which misled my misguided mind."

Blather all you want, I'll be bumping your nonsense when the report comes out.
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I just don't suffer scum like you. As a result, it's not surprising that other scumbags don't like me. I've said it before - if you didn't despise me, I'd be worried.

As for most of the people who post here, I get along with them just fine.

How many real-life friends have you made as a result of posting here?
Yea, except for your rep wars and crusades against certain posters (wickedson, Thig Lyfe, etc).

I have enough real life friends that I don't need to get more from an internet message board. My identity isn't tied into a Chiefs message board. You really should unplug from this site for awhile. Having so much of your identity tied into your vile posting on a Chiefs message board isn't healthy.
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Nice to see you're digging a tunnel for yourself into, "Oh, they made a mistake which mislead my misguided mind."

Blather all you want, I'll be bumping your nonsense when the report comes out.
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Nice to see you're digging a tunnel for yourself into, "Oh, they made a mistake which mislead my misguided mind."

Blather all you want, I'll be bumping your nonsense when the report comes out.
And he'll ignore it. Frazzie is a bitch.
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Yea, except for your rep wars and crusades against certain posters (wickedson, Thig Lyfe, etc).

I have enough real life friends that I don't need to get more from an internet message board. My identity isn't tied into a Chiefs message board. You really should unplug from this site for awhile. Having so much of your identity tied into your vile posting on a Chiefs message board isn't healthy.
Playing with dolls & talking shit about my daughter aint healthy either. If I ever get lucky enough to meet you.
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Yea, except for your rep wars and crusades against certain posters (wickedson, Thig Lyfe, etc).

I have enough real life friends that I don't need to get more from an internet message board. My identity isn't tied into a Chiefs message board. You really should unplug from this site for awhile. Having so much of your identity tied into your vile posting on a Chiefs message board isn't healthy.
Good God, do you think you could find a couple of better examples?

And I guess that whole "I don't need friends!" is a healthy attitude for somebody who is too much of a piece of shit to make any in the first place. You go girl!
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Playing with dolls & talking shit about my daughter aint healthy either. If I ever get lucky enough to meet you.
If you got lucky enough to meet me, . If you think a hayseed from ****ing Nebraska who posts racist shit towards me, makes me have any fear then I have some beachfront property in Arizona that I would like to discuss with you.
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Not sure yet. I was just discussing it your mom, but she can't talk right now.
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