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Old 10-27-2012, 08:53 PM  
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Official 2012-2013 NBA Thread

Looks like James Harden has been To the Rockets for Jeremey Lamb, Kevin Martin and future picks. Plus... this is a general NBA thread.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:15 PM   #991
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I think Waiters and Irving will blow up if we ever get an All-Star caliber forward. Just feed off of eachother and be able to carry the load if the other ones having an off night.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:18 PM   #992
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Congrats Jim Buss. Mike Brown and Phil Jackson are laughing at your right now.
Still can't believe those idiots hired D'Antoni over Jackson. WTF did they think was going to happen?
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:20 PM   #993
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Still can't believe those idiots hired D'Antoni over Jackson. WTF did they think was going to happen?
I don't think Jackson would have really come back.

OTOH, the Spurs are kicking ass and it is an odd numbered year so WOOOOO CHAMPIONSHIP WOOOOOOO.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:35 PM   #994
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Still can't believe those idiots hired D'Antoni over Jackson. WTF did they think was going to happen?
Jim Buss would rather fail repeatedly than have Phil come in and win another title or 2. Wish his dad would smack the shit out of him and teach him how to run a team.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:42 PM   #995
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I don't think Jackson would have really come back.

OTOH, the Spurs are kicking ass and it is an odd numbered year so WOOOOO CHAMPIONSHIP WOOOOOOO.
All reports at the time suggested he would have. He just would have been granted more power and privileges than most coaches, which apparently Buss couldn't accept.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:42 AM   #996
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Jim Buss would rather fail repeatedly than have Phil come in and win another title or 2. Wish his dad would smack the shit out of him and teach him how to run a team.
It was Jerry Buss that wanted Phil. this has been established. He wants to "try" to bring showtime back with Nash. Nash is still Solid, but he's almost 39.

Dwight Howard is absolutely Terrible on offfense. He turns the ball over 60 percent of the time when they feed him the ball down low in the post, plus he cant shoot a free throw. Watching him almost every game, i dont know what others see thats so good. Yes, he can block a shot and yes he can rebound, but he blows alot of defensive assignments and sucks on offense. Had to say it twice.

Gasol is done as well. his knee's and his foot makes him obsolete. Lakerss should have traded him when they had the chance.

Kobe and Nash are the only ones worth a **** anymore.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:28 PM   #997
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Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant just can’t get along, and there’s a team in Brooklyn that might be waiting to pick up the pieces.

A league source told the Daily News that the Lakers stars got into a heated exchange following a New Year’s Day loss to the 76ers, and Bryant went for a low blow – referencing and agreeing with Shaquille O’Neal’s criticisms of Howard being soft.

Howard was restrained from going at his teammate, according to the source, and there have been rumblings from the center’s camp that he’s been unhappy with Bryant since earlier in the season.

Three days after the altercation, following a disheartening loss to the Clippers, Howard complained about the lack of chemistry on the Lakers. It was a comment seemingly directed at Bryant, who is averaging a league-high 22 shots despite playing with three potential Hall of Famers.

The Mike D’Antoni-coached Lakers fell to 15-18 after losing at home to the Denver Nuggets, 112-105, Sunday night despite Howard’s 26 rebounds. Bryant led L.A. with 29 points but took 26 shots.

“Look at the difference between our team and (the Clippers),” Howard said. “They just play together. They share the ball. Everybody’s excited when something happens.”

Howard again hinted at the disconnect on Saturday. There were always concerns over whether Bryant, a no-nonsense veteran, and Howard, a playful man-child, could co-exist.


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Old 01-07-2013, 03:03 PM   #998
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I called the lakers before the season...super teams rarely work out with a guy like Kobe and it also didn't make sense for Kobe and Steve Nash to be on the same team
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:06 PM   #999
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Look look they are fighting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Kobe and Nash have had no problems playing with one another. Imo, they are doing fine and are the only 2 players playing at a high level that is starting. Problem lies with Pau and Howard on offense.

Defense will always be iffy as Gasol cant move and lets face it the Lakers are older. So their best defense will be an efficient offense. At times its not, because we cant do anything downlow.
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I bet the team would be better with no Kobe...and that's really not a knock on Kobe, I'd elaborate but I'm on a phone. I will make my point later.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:22 PM   #1001
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I bet the team would be better with no Kobe...and that's really not a knock on Kobe, I'd elaborate but I'm on a phone. I will make my point later.
The guy that gives 100 percent almost all the time, he does play a ton of minutes so he cant play with like that every possesion not humanly possible at his age, but he's not a problem.

I have watched EVERY game this year and they just dont get back on defense and the lateral movement on defense is pisssssss poor! That with NO low post game from anyone, even though we dont run it alot, but when we do run it, its a ****ing disaster.

I dont see who scores if its not Kobe, no one else can get a shot off besides Nash. He's the only one. Ooh, lets not forget we have no shooters outside of Kobe and Nash.

This team would win like 7 games right now without Kobe. When he's out of the game, its a ****ing disaster on offense.
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I bet the team would be better with no Kobe...and that's really not a knock on Kobe, I'd elaborate but I'm on a phone. I will make my point later.
Kobe isn't even close to the problem. Him and Nash are the only ones that can consistently play worth a damn.

It's all about inconsistency on offense from Pau and Howard and the fact that our defense allows 760 points per 100 possessions.
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I told you I wasn't bashing Kobe...I just don't see how he fits with Nash. You can say they are working but they are 15-18. This team would be a winner with Steve Nash, Ray Allen playing Kobe's spot, and then Dwight and Gasol down low. Kobe makes no sense in a D'Antoni system, and makes no sense playing with Steve Nash who, without Kobe, could make Dwight Howard a flat out stud, if those two were the focal points of the offense rather than Kobe.

There is a reason why Michael Jordan never had a point guard and Pippen was the point forward...guys like MJ or Kobe need the ball, need to be the focal points, and definitely don't need a Steve Nash at PG.

It makes no damn sense.

The Lakers would be a 3 or 4 seed without Kobe...maybe the same without Nash. The two of them together? It's a conflict. They have conflicting styles, both need the ball to be effective...sure, Nash can set up Kobe and whatever but that's now what they are meant to be. Nash should be running the pick and roll with Howard and penetrating to kick out to badass shooters like a Ray Allen. Pairing him with Kobe made no sense from the get go...

Perhaps the fact Dwight has been a bit underwhelming is the reason I was right about the Lakers, but I said preseason when this all went down on my Facebook that the Lakers were going to bust big time this year. Team made NO SENSE on paper, despite all of the "star" power.
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Kobe is -10+ every box score I see.

Doesn't fit with Nash. 86 Kobe, get some trade value, team instantly improves.
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Let me make sure I understand this... The Lakers would be better if they got rid of one of the best players in the game.

Makes sense.

The Lakers would be better if their FO was competent enough to make sure they hired a coach who fits the makeup of the team.

You go from hiring Mike Brown, one of the most inept coaches in the league, to becoming one of the oldest teams in the league, to hiring a coach who doesn't understand half court basketball.

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