Football Bucs not planning to extend Josh Freeman - Page 4

shitgoose · 01-07-2013, 07:18 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...mans-contract/

According to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, the Bucs won’t be extending Freeman’s contract, which expires after the 2013 season. And as Stroud explains it, the decision not to sign Freeman to a new deal could be part of a plan by coach Greg Schiano, who inherited Freeman, to get his own quarterback. And Freeman may change Schiano’s mind only by playing so well this season that Freeman leaves the Bucs with no other option than to use the franchise tag or sign him to a long-term deal.

One possibility would be to apply the non-exclusive tag and to see if anyone is willing to sign Freeman to an offer sheet and give up a pair of first-round picks. That would enable the Bucs to pull a reverse Keyshawn, giving up a player and getting two first-round picks 14 years after they gave up two first-round picks to get Keyshawn Johnson from the Jets.

The Bucs likely would settle for less, since the alternative will be to let Freeman walk away.

Dave · 01-07-2013, 08:04 AM

I'd like Freeman if he were a FA.

2 firsts?

Al Bundy · 01-07-2013, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian

He was decent as a rookie but has pretty much sucked the past 2 seasons.

If a 24 year old 1st rounder with 3 years experience is being shopped, it's not because the team likes his upside.

Better than what we have now, but not the answer IMO.

He was good in his second year, but 2011 was a trainwreck and the last month of last season he was below average. However, in his defense the entire team struggled.

shitgoose · 01-07-2013, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

Yes, because not wanting to trade for a once first round pick that is already being shown the door before his rookie deal expires means Geno is bust proof.

God this fan base is stupid.

But drafting two qb's and pinning you hopes for the 2013 season on Jason Campbell/Matt Moore is much smarter than drafting one qb and trading a mid-round pick for a 24 year old first rd qb who won 10 games his first full year starting and posted the below numbers.

2010 TB 16 291 474 61.4 3,451 7.3 25 6 95.9

SNR · 01-07-2013, 08:05 AM

Yeah this kind of thing ALWAYS works out in the NFL...

GENO ISN'T A SURE THING GUYS

Yeah, I'm sure that's what the Bears said when they traded for Cutler

jd1020 · 01-07-2013, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose

But drafting two qb's and pinning you hopes for the 2013 season on Jason Campbell/Matt Moore is much smarter than drafting one qb and trading a mid-round pick for a 24 year old first rd qb who won 10 games his first full year starting and posted the below numbers is idiotic.

Who the **** said we were going to pin our hopes on Jason Campbell or Matt Moore. They would be the backup you dumbass.

I heard Matt Cassel put up a good stat line one year too. We should keep him!

shitgoose · 01-07-2013, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

Who the **** said we were going to pin our hopes on Jason Campbell or Matt Moore. They would be the backup you dumbass.

I heard Matt Cassel put up a good stat line one year too. We should keep him!

I'm not suggesting we sign Freeman to a 6/$60M dollar deal you ****ing idiot. I think we should take a flyer on Freeman for a mid-round pick. I want this football team to upgrade the QB position anyway possible. Drafting a QB at #1 isn't enough. Freeman is young and talented. He has more upside than any qb you will take in the mid rounds of this draft IMO.

jd1020 · 01-07-2013, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose

I'm not suggesting we sign Freeman to a 6/$60M dollar deal you ****ing idiot. I think we should take a flyer on Freeman for a mid-round pick. I want this football team to upgrade the QB position anyway possible. Drafting a QB at #1 isn't enough. Freeman is young and talented. He has more upside than any qb you will take in the mid rounds of this draft IMO.

And I never said you were suggesting signing Freeman to a $60M deal you dumbass.

He doesn't have more upside than mid round QBs in this draft because he's as talented as a mid round pick and he's shown what he can do in the NFL and its NOT GOOD.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

Yes, because not wanting to trade for a once first round pick that is already being shown the door before his rookie deal expires means Geno is bust proof.

God this fan base is stupid.

SNR · 01-07-2013, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose

I'm not suggesting we sign Freeman to a 6/$60M dollar deal you ****ing idiot. I think we should take a flyer on Freeman for a mid-round pick. I want this football team to upgrade the QB position anyway possible. Drafting a QB at #1 isn't enough. Freeman is young and talented. He has more upside than any qb you will take in the mid rounds of this draft IMO.

Agreed.

So take a QB in the first round of the draft instead.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shitgoose

I think we should take a flyer on Freeman for a mid-round pick.

NO. NO. **** NO.

We need EVERY pick we have. Get a FREE AGENT.

scott free · 01-07-2013, 08:17 AM

I'd take this guy in a HEARTBEAT, he's EXACTLY the kind of big, physical pocket passer i prefer.

Guys like that arent nearly as afraid to step into pressure, they can make throws with guys hanging all over them and are much harder to sack... give him intense coaching and guidance and look out.

I would LOVE it, take a young hotshot #1 and let'em fight it out.

LiveSteam · 01-07-2013, 08:17 AM

Do not bring him in for a look
I repeat
Do not bring him in for a look

houstonwhodat · 01-07-2013, 08:17 AM

Keep looking.

He is not your answer.

As much as Andy Reid likes to throw you need to find the next Brees, Brady, Manning or Rodgers.

I have no idea who in the hell that is though.

Dante84 · 01-07-2013, 08:18 AM

QB in the first, and snag Freeman for the correct price (not two firsts).

Regarding Freeman's upside, I would defer to Reid. Freeman has shown some awesome flashes, and also sucked a lot of ass. Maybe its a correctable thing, maybe its not.

But again, I would defer to Reid's QB knowledge.

WhiteWhale · 01-07-2013, 08:19 AM

I suggest a good number of you read the goddamn article to avoid confusion.

The bucs aren't releasing him. He won't be a FA this off-season.

They're going to make him play out his contract. After seeing what he does next season they'll make a decision to re sign him, let him walk, or franchise him. They're just not extending him NOW.

Reading is fundamental folks.

01-07-2013, 07:18 AM
shitgoose Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: WHITCHITA Casino cash: $30484	Bucs not planning to extend Josh Freeman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...mans-contract/ According to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, the Bucs won’t be extending Freeman’s contract, which expires after the 2013 season. And as Stroud explains it, the decision not to sign Freeman to a new deal could be part of a plan by coach Greg Schiano, who inherited Freeman, to get his own quarterback. And Freeman may change Schiano’s mind only by playing so well this season that Freeman leaves the Bucs with no other option than to use the franchise tag or sign him to a long-term deal. One possibility would be to apply the non-exclusive tag and to see if anyone is willing to sign Freeman to an offer sheet and give up a pair of first-round picks. That would enable the Bucs to pull a reverse Keyshawn, giving up a player and getting two first-round picks 14 years after they gave up two first-round picks to get Keyshawn Johnson from the Jets. The Bucs likely would settle for less, since the alternative will be to let Freeman walk away.
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SNR You're all I have left, Copper Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $4527188	Yeah this kind of thing ALWAYS works out in the NFL... GENO ISN'T A SURE THING GUYS Yeah, I'm sure that's what the Bears said when they traded for Cutler
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01-07-2013, 08:17 AM	#56
scott free ask for it by name Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: district 6 Casino cash: $3129654	I'd take this guy in a HEARTBEAT, he's EXACTLY the kind of big, physical pocket passer i prefer. Guys like that arent nearly as afraid to step into pressure, they can make throws with guys hanging all over them and are much harder to sack... give him intense coaching and guidance and look out. I would LOVE it, take a young hotshot #1 and let'em fight it out.
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LiveSteam All aboard the crazy train Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: homeof43conferencetitles Casino cash: $40559	Do not bring him in for a look I repeat Do not bring him in for a look
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01-07-2013, 08:17 AM	#58
houstonwhodat Veteran Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Parallel Universe Casino cash: $11078	Keep looking. He is not your answer. As much as Andy Reid likes to throw you need to find the next Brees, Brady, Manning or Rodgers. I have no idea who in the hell that is though.
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01-07-2013, 08:18 AM	#59
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $97603	QB in the first, and snag Freeman for the correct price (not two firsts). Regarding Freeman's upside, I would defer to Reid. Freeman has shown some awesome flashes, and also sucked a lot of ass. Maybe its a correctable thing, maybe its not. But again, I would defer to Reid's QB knowledge. __________________ From: ***, Scott Sent: Tuesday, August 31st, 2010 8:50 AM To: Hamilton, Brandon Subject:** RE: AC in Weight Room Brandon - gum wrapper and ball of hair on player staircase for two days now... scott
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01-07-2013, 08:19 AM	#60
WhiteWhale Veteran Join Date: May 2011 Location: Doo-Dah Casino cash: $23968	I suggest a good number of you read the goddamn article to avoid confusion. The bucs aren't releasing him. He won't be a FA this off-season. They're going to make him play out his contract. After seeing what he does next season they'll make a decision to re sign him, let him walk, or franchise him. They're just not extending him NOW. Reading is fundamental folks.
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