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Old 01-07-2013, 07:55 AM  
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Top DC Candidate

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:31 AM   #31
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I'm against the Tampa 2.

Fighting against a change to the 4-3 seems like a lost cause at this point. They're going to do it.
One step forward two steps back.

Damit Clark! You want to be like Pittsburgh then set the tone. Build a badass attacking D and never let the well run dry on talent. Keep it stocked. Also acquire a franchise QB. It's going to be hard to do if everytime we hire a new HC we change the damn defensive scheme.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:33 AM   #32
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Interesting.

As I said in the other thread, I am all for Reid's decisions until he ****s them up and right now he is batting 0 for 0.

Crazy that they wasted Dorsey's whole first contract trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, now after it is over, the round hole would be there.

TJ is finally starting to play like a draftable talent, albeit not 3rd overall. He would not fit in the 4-3, correct?
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:35 AM   #33
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He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:37 AM   #34
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Interesting.

As I said in the other thread, I am all for Reid's decisions until he ****s them up and right now he is batting 0 for 0.

Crazy that they wasted Dorsey's whole first contract trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, now after it is over, the round hole would be there.

TJ is finally starting to play like a draftable talent, albeit not 3rd overall. He would not fit in the 4-3, correct?
I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:37 AM   #35
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Sure, but it's a lateral move.
We could tack on the "assistant HC" label or some other BS title and about $2 mil a year...
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:37 AM   #36
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He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.
True.
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We could tack on the "assistant HC" label or some other BS title and about $2 mil a year...
I think they outlawed that.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:41 AM   #38
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Watching every USC game the past year... Kiffin did not impress with superior talent.

USC pushed him out the door....
I do not want Kiffin, but the above is a myth. USC did not have superior talent on defense. They lacked depth and most of the hits from ncaa sanctions were on defense.

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2009 - 8
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I think they outlawed that.
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Interesting.

As I said in the other thread, I am all for Reid's decisions until he ****s them up and right now he is batting 0 for 0.

Crazy that they wasted Dorsey's whole first contract trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, now after it is over, the round hole would be there.

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I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.
I thought he looked best this season when they moved him inside on passing downs. Could see him as a DE on early downs (rushing plays) and then move inside as a penetrating DT on pass plays? Maybe?
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:45 AM   #41
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I initially hated the idea of kiffin but it's growing on me.

Didn't realize he runs the under. It's not Tampa 2. It's a very aggressive defense. It's what Seattle runs. Best news is it would be an easy transition. It's basically a 4-3 that uses 3-4 personnel.

Now.. This isn't his baby. Kiffin adapted to this defense and struggled with it at USC. But I love the scheme for kc.
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I thought he looked best this season when they moved him inside on passing downs. Could see him as a DE on early downs (rushing plays) and then move inside as a penetrating DT on pass plays? Maybe?
Jackson is the guy I think would be the worst fit in a 4-3.

Powe/Poe and Dorsey (if resigned) could handle DT in a rotation.

I don't like Hali as a 4-3 OLB and he's not strong enough to play the end...
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Any DC that can work with our talent and exploit what we have....that's what I'm for. Schemes generally don't excite me. Having said that, I'd prefer a coach that can employ a 34-43 hybrid that's super-aggressive.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:48 AM   #44
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He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.
So they are just going to lose him you think? Maybe he will give the Chiefs a discount since he has been way overpaid?

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I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.
Would he then become a rushing DE, instead of just eating up blockers?
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I thought he looked best this season when they moved him inside on passing downs. Could see him as a DE on early downs (rushing plays) and then move inside as a penetrating DT on pass plays? Maybe?
I would love to see them get some return on that huge investment.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:48 AM   #45
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Told you guys this was coming. All signs were pointing to the 4-3 under which the likes of Kiffin, Jauron and Seattle runs.

It is actually a defense that s similar to the 3-4.
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