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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
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Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:20 AM   #1681
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Why do "we all" deserve the worst God has to offer?
you get to choose...Accept him get the best God offers
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:20 AM   #1682
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Why do "we all" deserve the worst God has to offer?
We're all disgusting sinners on our best day.

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19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:21 AM   #1683
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Do you really believe that the entire world was flooded and that Noah and his family were the only humans left on earth afterward and that 2 of every creature on earth were floating around on the boat with them?
Do you really believe the most complex organisms to ever walk this earth came from an eruption of molecules and atoms....?
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:22 AM   #1684
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Lot of stuff on this subject. Again, I don't pretend to be an expert but let me offer this.
The beautiful thing about believing in God is that you dont have to have proof to know that he exists.

You are right, the Bible was written by men...yet it is the word of God. Men such as prophets and priests and saints are less men than channels that allow God to reach the rest of us. The dictionary is also just words, and yet it defines every word in the English language...

God makes his actions through people, and those people's actions are God. Moses did all of his work in Egypt for and by God. Without God, the chosen people would have remained slaves. Noah built the ark as a result of God's will. God did not want humans to go extinct, so he acted through Noah and his family.

People quote the Holy Bible because they respect its wisdom. Even if one does not believe in God, they cannot deny that the Bible lays down wonderful moral guidelines.

The proof of God is shown individually by God. Everyone has their own experiences that proves to them that God is watching over them. If you have not had your experience yet, do not despair. It will always come to those who are truely devoted to Him. And He is always ready toa ccept those who do not follow Him, whenever they decide to turn to Him for guidence.

What I have come to know from this is that God has a plan for each of our lives. We should seek him and ask for his wisdom and guidance.

It appears that we all choose/refuse to believe something.
I'm curious... do you apply the first bolded quote to any other aspects of belief in your life? What other things do you believe in, in which there has never been any observable evidence for, yet you remain convinced of it's truthfulness? If not, then why would you only apply that mindset to religion?

Does it sound absurd to you if I said "The beautiful thing about leprechauns, is is that you dont have to have proof to know that they exist." If so, then why wouldn't it sound absurd for a different topic in which there is equally no proof of existence? Does that not seem strange to you?

And I agree that the Bible lays down some wonderful moral guidelines. But it also lays down some pretty vengeful mean shit too. Murder those that oppose God, kill all their people except the young women, which you should keep as slaves. And it's all right to beat your slaves, as long as you don't kill them. That is directly in the Bible as well. Do you practice that wisdom?
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:23 AM   #1685
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Why do "we all" deserve the worst God has to offer?
In a religious aspect it's pretty obvious God isn't ruling the earth. So you don't and haven't deserved anything or been punished. It's a simple by-product of everyone being imperfect.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:25 AM   #1686
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his life, his actions are not consistent with what the Church believes or what God would have wanted him to do.
You can be a member of anything...just being a member means nothing
Isn't Hitler's relationship with God the only thing that should matter in determining whether or not he was a Christian? I mean, I've heard/read over and over that our actions ultimately don't matter and that we all sin and that a belief in Christ as the savior is all that matters. How could anyone but Hitler know exactly what he believed?
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:26 AM   #1687
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Isn't Hitler's relationship with God the only thing that should matter in determining whether or not he was a Christian? I mean, I've heard/read over and over that our actions ultimately don't matter and that we all sin and that a belief in Christ as the savior is all that matters. How could anyone but Hitler know exactly what he believed?
Well then, you heard wrong. GOD is not mocked or tricked, if you think you can walk around with the attitude that I can do whatever I want Jesus will forgive you then you're doing it completely wrong.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:26 AM   #1688
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We're all disgusting sinners on our best day.

Mathew 6

19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
You should learn to speak for yourself, and only yourself.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:26 AM   #1689
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Yet you'll believe an even less logical story made by men you have never met, who are not perfect?

If you're going to say man is imperfect and untrustworthy, then you have to apply that equally to both religion and science. They both are the product of man. It's fascinating that you can't see the hypocrisy of that.
Keep up buddy, as I said before there's as many questions about both.

It really comes down to two simple things and what you believe. We came from nothing, or we came from something

And the man everyone decided to follow (Darwin) didn't even seem, to be so convinced in his OWN writings.
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Do you really believe the most complex organisms to ever walk this earth came from an eruption of molecules and atoms....?
I'll ask again: Do you believe that the entire world was flooded, and that afterward the only people remaining on earth were Noah and his family, and that 2 of every species of animal on earth were floating around on the boat with them?
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:28 AM   #1691
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:29 AM   #1692
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So now you speak for "Satan" also?
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:30 AM   #1693
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So now you speak for "Satan" also?
No i was commenting on your comment.

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like i said a CINO if there ever was. Christian in name only, just saying it doesn't make it true.
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it doesn't matter what he says...it is what he does
But Hitler truly believed in his heart that he was doing exactly what God wanted. And he could back it up by directly referencing Bible verses. You're simply applying your personal interpretation of what's important in the Bible. Exactly as Hitler did. He was convinced he was right, just as you are convinced that you're right. And neither you nor Hitler could provide a single item of evidence to support your interpretation. Therefore Hitler's interpretation is just as believable as yours.
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I'll ask again: Do you believe that the entire world was flooded, and that afterward the only people remaining on earth were Noah and his family, and that 2 of every species of animal on earth were floating around on the boat with them?
Yep.


And I'll ask again, your so blinded you believe you came absolute zero. Now people can pick which is harder to believe.

You believe what you want. When a scientist can create am atom from combustion of the 20 living matters of life (the Big Bang) by chance. I'll start listening.
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