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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

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Old 01-07-2013, 12:10 PM   #1741
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It's not insignificant at all. What happens to the people god rejects?
When people are dead, they are dead.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:11 PM   #1742
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When people are dead, they are dead.
that's not what the bible says. It says ALL will be judged. Some will be removed from god's sight. Others won't be.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:11 PM   #1743
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When people are dead, they are dead.
The good and the bad? Then all of this really is moot?
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:12 PM   #1744
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The saying "God needed another angel" absolutely drives me crazy, and is a main reason as to why people hate "Christians"
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:13 PM   #1745
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that's not what the bible says. It says ALL will be judged.
Eventually yes. All will be judged in harmogeden, until then, you are alive or dead.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:13 PM   #1746
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The saying "God needed another angel" absolutely drives me crazy, and is a main reason as to why people hate "Christians"
Your persecution complex cracks me up.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:14 PM   #1747
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Eventually yes. All will be judged in harmogeden, until then, you are alive or dead.
What happens to the people god rejects?
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:15 PM   #1748
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Like I said this all comes down to how I interpret the bible. I believe there will be an Armageddon, which all evil will cease to exist after that point. But once they're dead, they're simply dead.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:15 PM   #1749
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Sounds like as good of a control mechanism as I've ever heard of.

What's your personal opinion of Hell, KC? I've heard it as a place of eternal suffering, and I've heard it as a place where you are just simpley cut off from the prescence of God for all of time. Which do you buy, or do you think of it as something else.
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19There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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Ok.
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Like I said this all comes down to how I interpret the bible. I believe there will be an Armageddon, which all evil will cease to exist after that point. But once they're dead, they're simply dead.
Can you not answer a simple question? What happens to those souls god rejects?
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:19 PM   #1752
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Not to mention the book of revaluation where points to signs of the last days. And it's everything we go through now, exactly everything. Doesn't take a religious person to know the world is going down hill.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #1753
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Can you not answer a simple question? What happens to those souls god rejects?
Did all that higher education skip the reading comprehension chapter for you?

THEY DIE, AND REMAIN DEAD. SIMPLY THAT.

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Old 01-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #1754
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Ok and? What about 2 atheists one believes in the big bang and the other doesn't?
Well my guess would be something like this:

Atheist 1: Hey man, did you hear about this Big Bang Theory? It's pretty awesome.

Atheist 2: I don't think I believe it.

Atheist 1: Really? Well there's actually proof for it. You know when you're tuning your radio and there's static when you tune in between channels? Well that static is actually caused in part by the background radiation left over from the Big Bang. We can actually measure it. Here's how they do it.. On top of that, we can monitor the fluctuations in it over time.

Atheist 2: Hmmm.

Atheist 1: Seriously. And also astronomers can calculate the redshift of distant celestial bodies in all directions, and see evidence of homogeneity which also supports the Big Bang Theory. Here check out this data and the map that was created with the help of the Hubble telescope, and see for yourself.

Atheist 2: Interesting.

Atheist 1: Then there's the primordial nucleosynthesis that we can physically detect in the universe.

Atheist 2: What's that?

Atheist 1: Well, that would be helium, deuterium, lithium, and beryllium. These can only be produced when the universe was in a state of high temperature and density so great that protons and neutrons existed as free particles, not bound by a nucleus. This could only happen during the first few minutes of the Big Bang. Yet we can detect these things still today.

Atheist 2: This is actually pretty fascinating.

Atheist 1: No shit! And that's not all. There's also the Sunyaev-Zel'dovich effect, the Integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect, the Tolman experiment, and the existence and detection of dark matter and energy. All these are different independent methods of observing and explaining the Big Bang.

Atheist 2: Well I have to admit, that is some pretty convincing evidence. Perhaps I'll look into this topic for myself, and consider the validity of this. You've intrigued me to reevaluate my position on this matter. And for that I thank you.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:23 PM   #1755
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Did all that higher education skip the reading comprehension chapter for you?

THEY DIE, AND REMAIN DEAD. SIMPLY THAT.
As a guy who writes about the "book of revaluation", you probably should leave the reading smack aside.

PS, what you're saying isn't what the bible says.
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