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Old 01-07-2013, 07:55 AM  
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Top DC Candidate

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:17 PM   #151
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This forum is all about Geno Smith as a Franchise QB. Yet every single article I read elsewhere says that this draft doesn't have a Franchise QB.

I got the feeling from Reid's statement that he was tempering the fan base because at this point in time, HE doesn't know if there's a Franchise QB in the THIS draft and he doesn't want everyone to be disappointed if he chooses another position or trades out.

Like you, I'll trust his QB evaluation.
We can't put stock in a single thing said in the presser today. Coach speak all the way.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:18 PM   #152
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This forum is all about Geno Smith as a Franchise QB. Yet every single article I read elsewhere says that this draft doesn't have a Franchise QB.

I got the feeling from Reid's statement that he was tempering the fan base because at this point in time, HE doesn't know if there's a Franchise QB in the THIS draft and he doesn't want everyone to be disappointed if he chooses another position or trades out.

Like you, I'll trust his QB evaluation.
This is what everyone should want. They should want an evaluation, and not some asshole coming in here with his mind already made up like the last GM who I won't even dignify with a name anymore.

Instead, there's going to be some on here who go all crazy if Geno Smith isn't the guy.

I want a QB in here too, but I also wanted new leadership first and foremost. I trust that new leadership can identify QBs since that's what a majority of them have done an incredible job with a majority of their careers.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:19 PM   #153
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That's just not true.

His line couldn't hold a pocket for him to save his life last year. That's not the case here. The guy isn't running a 4.3 anymore, but he's still plenty elusive.

Where are you getting Hasselbeck from? He's got a year left in Tennessee. Who else qualifies as a "Hasselbeck" type of guy?
Vick isn't a pocket passer, he can't read a defense, and isnt' accurate. He will miss games due to injury.


If you're bringing in a vet, that's not what you need. I'd rather have Jason Campbell or Matt Moore
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:20 PM   #154
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I just don't see how he can sell bringing Michael Vick here. You would have to think he wants to rid of himself of the past few years in Philadelphia.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:20 PM   #155
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Vick isn't a pocket passer, he can't read a defense, and isnt' accurate. He will miss games due to injury.


If you're bringing in a vet, that's not what you need. I'd rather have Jason Campbell or Matt Moore
Neither Campbell or Moore are free agents.

I'll just agree to disagree with about Vick's ability to read a defense.
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One thing not getting enough love for Reid is that he's a guy who has flipped mediocre talent for strong trades, not the one buying high on marginal talent.

Now that's going to be a refreshing change of pace in KC.
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I just don't see how he can sell bringing Michael Vick here. You would have to think he wants to rid of himself of the past few years in Philadelphia.
He may want to. It's just my speculation.

I think if he's cut loose, there's not a whole lot of options.

1-2 years of Vick is far better than trading for Alex Smith.
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We can't put stock in a single thing said in the presser today. Coach speak all the way.
But answer me this: When is "Coach Speak" not Coach Speak? How can you be absolutely certain that he didn't mean what he said? That he was going to evaluate the position and NOT choose a QB, just to choose a QB and that he may choose a QB next year?

I'm sorry, but I have to leave open the possibility that he's telling the truth. I also believe it's possible that they pass on a QB at #1 overall.
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One thing not getting enough love for Reid is that he's a guy who has flipped mediocre talent for strong trades, not the one buying high on marginal talent.

Now that's going to be a refreshing change of pace in KC.
Everything about this is refreshing.

If you told me 10 days ago that the Chiefs would get Andy Reid, fire Scott Pioli, and likely get John Dorsey, I would have offered you a handy.
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Neither Campbell or Moore are free agents.

I'll just agree to disagree with about Vick's ability to read a defense.
Just read that Campbell and Moore are free agents, where did you see that they weren't?

And thats been the biggest knock on Vick everywhere he's been.
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But answer me this: When is "Coach Speak" not Coach Speak? How can you be absolutely certain that he didn't mean what he said? That he was going to evaluate the position and NOT choose a QB, just to choose a QB and that he may choose a QB next year?

I'm sorry, but I have to leave open the possibility that he's telling the truth. I also believe it's possible that they pass on a QB at #1 overall.
True.


But I don't really see next years class being even close to this years class.
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This is what everyone should want. They should want an evaluation, and not some asshole coming in here with his mind already made up like the last GM who I won't even dignify with a name anymore.

Instead, there's going to be some on here who go all crazy if Geno Smith isn't the guy.

I want a QB in here too, but I also wanted new leadership first and foremost. I trust that new leadership can identify QBs since that's what a majority of them have done an incredible job with a majority of their careers.
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Just read that Campbell and Moore are free agents, where did you see that they weren't?

And thats been the biggest knock on Vick everywhere he's been.
Actually you are right, Campbell is a free agent. I thought he signed a 2 year deal.

Moore is as well. I thought he signed his 2 year deal for 5 million last offseason.

I would be fine with Moore, but if you think Campbell is more accurate and can read a defense better than Vick, I don't know what you've been watching.
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But answer me this: When is "Coach Speak" not Coach Speak? How can you be absolutely certain that he didn't mean what he said? That he was going to evaluate the position and NOT choose a QB, just to choose a QB and that he may choose a QB next year?

I'm sorry, but I have to leave open the possibility that he's telling the truth. I also believe it's possible that they pass on a QB at #1 overall.
Absolutely he's going to evaluate the roster in great depth. I wouldn't expect anything less, but I don't think making that statement, while true, makes any news. Kind of like saying after a loss, "We need to execute better." Well, no shit.

What he's not going to do is give any indication of how he'll fix the QB situation in KC.

Now, I agree that he might not take a QB at 1/1, but I think it's an absolute lock that we won't get beyond the #33 overall pick without selecting a QB who will be penciled in to start next season at some point.
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And yes, there will be some on here that will shit ass bricks if it isn't Geno.

But for the most part, I think the majority feel that Wilson, Smith, and Barkley would all be good picks.


Or atleast thats how I feel.
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