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Old 01-07-2013, 08:38 AM  
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Peter Kings take on Pioli...

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My Take on Pioli ...

Yes, it was inevitable that the Chiefs fired Scott Pioli, whose top three decisions in a four-year Chiefs run (hiring Todd Haley, trading for Matt Cassel, hiring Romeo Crennel) all turned out to be wrong. He trusted Cassel a long time, and by the time he knew he needed to get a quarterback, it was too late. He passed on some good prospects, as did many teams (Andy Dalton, Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson); maybe he didn't think outside the box enough at the game's most important position.

And Pioli was too private for his own good in what has become an increasingly public job. When Haley last year implied that Pioli wiretapped his phones, an outrageous and baseless allegation, Pioli let a team statement stand for his response instead of coming out swinging. But the vitriol chasing him out the door was over the top. He's a good man who didn't win enough. The personal attacks I just don't get.

I know Pioli well, and many of you will say, "He's just sticking up for Pioli because he likes him." Well, I have known Pioli for a long time, and yes, I do like him. I like a lot of people I cover. I can see when a man's getting kicked too much, and this is one of those times. Final point for those who believe Pioli left the cupboard bare: Think there's a reason the hottest ex-head coach on the market, Andy Reid, didn't consider any other jobs after he was offered the Kansas City deal?



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Andy Reid took the job because he has the top pick in the draft and will have tons of cap room as soon as he drops Cassel and Jackson. He took it because the Chiefs have an awesome running back who fits his scheme and was here before Pioli ever thought of stepping foot around here. Houston is the only pick Pioli can really take credit for for hitting an out of the park type of player. Berry is the only other player he drafted that has been better then average and he was a 5th pick in the draft. Who would have ****ed that pick up? **** Pioli.

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Old 01-07-2013, 04:35 PM   #91
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I think there were some articles stating such, but I don't remember enough of them to search them.
I want to say that I have read it in an article or two as well but do not recall for certain. One thing I do know for a fact is that the banners promoting those charities are gone. That in and of itself is nothing short of a shame.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:55 PM   #93
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When Haley last year implied that 'Team-killer' Pioli wiretapped his phones, an outrageous and baseless allegation, 'Team-killer' Pioli let a team statement stand for his response instead of coming out swinging.
Peter King destroyed any remaining shred of journalistic integrity he might have had with this disgraceful statement.

How does King know that Haley's assertion is "baseless" and "outrageous"? Because his fat ass dickhead buddy Fat Scott says so?

Peter King deserves to rot and burn in hell for his pathetic defense of Fat Scott.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:29 PM   #94
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Wow, how stoopid. Reid took the job because we have the #1 pick and can take any QB he wishes. That's all Peeoli's fault!
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:30 PM   #95
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:41 PM   #97
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Peter King destroyed any remaining shred of journalistic integrity he might have had with this disgraceful statement.

How does King know that Haley's assertion is "baseless" and "outrageous"? Because his fat ass dickhead buddy Fat Scott says so?

Peter King deserves to rot and burn in hell for his pathetic defense of Fat Scott.


You and Talking Can are the two best posters in bashing the **** out of Scott the last 2 years here.

Bravo.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:03 PM   #98
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king sucks more 'Team-killer' 'Team-killer' Pioli yam than matt cassel
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GFY, Peter King.
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King needs to keep his fat mouth shut.
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I haven't read the thread, but **** Peter King.
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Peter King deserves to rot and burn in hell for his pathetic defense of Fat Scott.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:28 PM   #99
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Peter King can go to hell with his stupid analogy. Pioli got everything wrong and fugged this team with his arrogance and refusal to admit mistakes. **** off peter puffer!
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:07 PM   #101
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:33 AM   #102
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My take on Peter King's take (Email sent directly to him):

Peter:

Regarding your continued defense of Scott *****, I have a few questions I'd like you to think about.

You mention Andy Reid jumping all over this job, and that ***** didn't leave the cupboard bare. And yes, there is an attractive core around which a good coach can build a team. But how many of those players are Scott ***** draft picks, and how many were here when he arrived?

In four years at the helm, ***** has brought in just 2 players who look to be part of that core: Justin Houston and Eric Berry. All the other key players - Brandon Albert, Dwayne Bowe, Jamaal Charles, Tamba Hali, Brandon Flowers, Derrick Johnson - were already in place when ***** arrived. This DESPITE multiple early-round picks (that were wasted on players like Tyson Jackson, Dexter McCluster, Javier Arenas, etc.)

The new leadership inherits basically the same exact core that ***** did - except that four years of their careers are gone.

How much of Andy Reid's desire for this job had to do with his belief in the ownership (And what Dick Vermeil told him about the Hunt family when asked)?

How much of it had to do with the cap room ***** hoarded while quality players like Brandon Carr (And soon to be Brandon Albert and Dwayne Bowe, had he been allowed to stay) walked elsewhere?

How much of it had to do with the top draft position the Chiefs find themselves in, thanks to *****'s inability to field a team capable of winning, coached by a man capable of winning in the NFL as the top guy?
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PIOLO DESERVES THE SCORN. Was Scott Pioli treated harshly in exiting? Perhaps, although that's partly why they get paid big-boy money. More importantly though, he built up exactly ZERO goodwill here in his time in KC. He played Patriot-type stonewall with the media. He said virtually nothing publicly during the last two horrible seasons. It appears he made few close associations at One Arrowhead Drive. So in a case like that, when the spit hits the fan, it's hardly unexpected to see what occurs. Sometimes, for better or worse, you reap what you sow. And in Pioli's case here in KC, he unfortunately didn't seem to sow much in the way of relationships or people to support him through tough times.

-- From Tim Goodheart, Kansas City


All good points. He should have been more transparent with such a trusted public treasure. And he failed to move the franchise ahead, which you would have expected with a guy who was considered the best GM prospect in football four years ago. As I said yesterday, you'll get no argument from me about the failure of the three big decisions he made as GM. What I'm talking about when I defended Pioli yesterday is the level of personal attacks and vitriol that filled my Twitter timeline were -- and I'm not exaggerating -- as if people were talking about a hardened criminal, not a general manager who failed to deliver the consistent winner the community was hoping for. That's what I don't get.

MORE PIOLI RANCOR. Your claim that Scot Pioli was treated unfairly in Kansas City just doesn't wash. Sure, the three major decisions you noted (Matt Cassell, Todd Haley and Romeo Crennel) were all terrible, but they don't come close to explaining the fan's vitriol toward the man. He used first round draft choices on Tyson Jackson and Jonathan Baldwin. He never brought in a credible backup to Cassel, let alone a legimate contender for the job. Why do you think Kyle Orton had no interest in staying in KC and instead took a backup job in Dallas? He let Brandon Carr go to Dallas and replaced him with Stanford Routt. He created a culture of secrecy and suspicion in the Chiefs organization. The reason people thought Todd Haley's claims were credible was because they were entirely consistent with the culture Scot Pioli created. The Chiefs were generally tens of millions under the salary cap after local taxpayers paid over $200 million for stadium renovations (the Miami Marlins were crucified in the national media for essentially operating the same way). Oh, and they finished 2-14, the same record that got his predecessor fired four years earlier. Pioli's record as a personnel man may be pretty good, his record as a GM is indefensible.

-- From Glenn, Wichita, Kans.


My point, Glenn: I'm good with booing. I'm good with angry letters to the editor. I'm fine with a plane flying overhead urging Clark Hunt to fire Pioli. Bags over the head? Okay with me. All's fair in love and football. But what does it say about us as a people that when Pioli walked on the field before a game this year with his daughter, a cascade of F-bombs and lewd catcalls from fans greeted him so loudly that players nearby were embarrassed?
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