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Old 01-07-2013, 07:55 AM  
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Top DC Candidate

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:15 PM   #256
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Bullshit.

You're telling me "smart people" questioned Elway's ability to lead a franchise? Or Peyton Manning? Or Andrew Luck or RGIII?

Bull ****ing shit.



Absolutely untrue.

Again, should the Chiefs take the best QB in the NFL Draft if his ability is equal to Akili Smith, Joey Harrington or even Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker, because they just happen to NEED a QB?

That is outright ****ing stupid.
Again here you are using the 3 or 4 best prospects in the history of the QB position.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:15 PM   #257
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If Reid isn't absolutely certain, I don't think he'd take a guy, just to take a guy.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:15 PM   #258
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Bullshit.

You're telling me "smart people" questioned Elway's ability to lead a franchise? Or Peyton Manning? Or Andrew Luck or RGIII?

Bull ****ing shit.



Absolutely untrue.

Again, should the Chiefs take the best QB in the NFL Draft if his ability is equal to Akili Smith, Joey Harrington or even Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker, because they just happen to NEED a QB?

That is outright ****ing stupid.
this shit is hilarious...no wonder we've gone 30 years without a QB

you guys are just making up new, stupid reasons to not draft a QB...****ing pussies...

identify the best QB in the draft

draft him

it is not complicated....or...or don't for another 30 years because no QB is as cute as Luck..

the way we've retroactively re-evaluted all QBs based on this year's class is hilarious, and by hilarious i mean ****ing retarded
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:16 PM   #259
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He had a COUPLE of penalties and held up pretty damn well, especially given that he often was without help. I have concerns that drop him to a 5-15 pick for me. I see him going right around #10.
That's fair. I see Joeckel going around 5 and Lewan a little lower. I think Lewan has a higher floor, while Joeckel has the higher ceiling.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:16 PM   #260
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you don't know what the outcome will be until you try...but you have to actually ****ing try to have any chance at success

but yeah, we should avoid the risk of failure...
That's a GREAT philosophy. Take a position of need in the draft because you NEED that position filled.

That's worked out SO well with defensive lineman, hasn't it? Downey, Sims, Freeman, Siavii, Dorsey, Jackson, Poe, etc. and so on.

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there's a QB in this draft...Reid's job is to draft him

it's that simple
That's why Cleveland, Buffalo, Arizona, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Oakland, Tampa Bay and Kansas City all need a Franchise QB.

Simple.

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Old 01-07-2013, 06:17 PM   #261
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this shit is hilarious...no wonder we've gone 30 years without a QB

you guys are just making up new, stupid reasons to not draft a QB...****ing pussies...

identify the best QB in the draft

draft him

it is not complicated....or...or don't for another 30 years because no QB is as cute as Luck..

the way we've retroactively re-evaluted all QBs based on this year's class is hilarious, and by hilarious i mean ****ing retarded
You're ****ing retarded.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:17 PM   #262
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And what if he does bust? Where does that put us? Worse than what?
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:18 PM   #263
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:18 PM   #264
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I don't think there's any way that one of the quarterbacks in the 2013 draft doesn't have the potential to be a franchise QB. Maybe it's Geno Smith. Maybe it's Tyler Wilson. Maybe it's (probably not) Matt Barkley. Maybe it's somebody else.

Their job is to figure out who that guy is and take him. No excuses.

And there are QBs in this draft equivalent to or better than Bradford or Stafford or Palmer, guys who all went #1, guys who've all played well, guys who were not expected to be the next Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. But guys who were worthy of the #1 pick.

I've said it before, you can't go into the pick expecting hall of fame talent. Because if that's the bar you set, then you you can't draft any position. Because maybe there isn't a Manning in this draft (or is there? let's see how February goes), but there also isn't a Pace or a Suh or a Charles Johnson or a Derrick Thomas. Hell, people are even talking about drafting the new Aaron Curry in the top 10, once tonight's game is over.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:19 PM   #265
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That's a GREAT philosophy. Take a position of need in the draft because you NEED that position filled.

That's worked out SO well with defensive lineman, hasn't it? Downey, Sims, Freeman, Siavii, Dorsey, Jackson, Poe, etc. and so on.



That's why Cleveland, Buffalo, Arizona, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Oakland, Tampa Bay and Kansas City all need a Franchise QB.

Simple.

what are you babbling about?

it is simple, it is not risk free...you keep obsessing about failure...why?

identify the best QB, draft him

simple...you can't guarantee success, you can only guarantee a chance at success by ACTUALLY DRAFTING A ****ING QB

i'd rather fail for trying then spend another 30 years failing for not trying...
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:19 PM   #266
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You're ****ing retarded.
You're the one saying a guy has to be Elway, Luck, RGIII to draft first overall.
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Bill Polian was certain when he drafted Jim Kelly, Kerry Collins and Peyton Manning. Ernie Accorsi was certain when he traded for Eli Manning.

Ryan Grigson was certain when he took Andrew Luck. Shanahan and Allen were certain when they took RGIII.

I think a guy like Andy Reid has a better sense than someone like Romeo Crennel, which is why Clark Hunt went so hard after Reid.

If Reid isn't absolutely certain, I don't think he'd take a guy, just to take a guy.
That doesn't answer my questions. Cherry picking some good QBs doesn't explain anything.
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Bullshit.

You're telling me "smart people" questioned Elway's ability to lead a franchise? Or Peyton Manning? Or Andrew Luck or RGIII?

Bull ****ing shit.



Absolutely untrue.

Again, should the Chiefs take the best QB in the NFL Draft if his ability is equal to Akili Smith, Joey Harrington or even Blaine Gabbert or Jake Locker, because they just happen to NEED a QB?

That is outright ****ing stupid.
Why do people keep bringing up Akili Smith as if it were some franchise-killing catastrophe?

Smith was drafted in 1999. The Bengals have drafted Carson Palmer AND Andy Dalton since then. Seems like they get it.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:20 PM   #269
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what are you babbling about?

it is simple, it is not risk free...you keep obsessing about failure...why?

identify the best QB, draft him

simple...you can't guarantee success, you can only guarantee a chance at success by ACTUALLY DRAFTING A ****ING QB

i'd rather fail for trying then spend another 30 years failing for not trying...
yep.
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This is the same guy that crucified people for not wanting to take Sanchez, Clausen, and Gabbert.
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