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Old 01-04-2012, 09:08 PM  
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***Offical 2012 STL Cardinals World Champions Thread ***

St. Louis Cardinals: 7 reasons fans should feel good about 2012

Posted Wednesday, October 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM

St. Louis Cardinals fans are likely feeling deflated after the collapse that put an end to the team's dreams of a World Series repeat, but there is good reason to be excited.

With all of the odds against them, the Cardinals managed to push their 2012 season beyond any anticipated boundary.

Given all of the season's changes and the adversity the team had to fight through, the fact that they played in October at all was an anomaly in itself. On paper, it made sense for the Cardinals to be in the playoffs, but few saw them as a true threat.
As the season continued, even fans began to doubt as they watched the team seemingly crumble in June and July. When the Cardinals finally came to life in September they went 11-5 in the last 16 games of the season to lock up the second Wild Card position in its inaugural year.

That run, despite it's crushing end in Cincinnati in Game 7 of the National League Championship Series, lots of good came from the Cardinals' season and playoff run.
Following in no particular order are 10 reasons Cardinals fans have to be excited about the 2013 season.

Trevor Rosenthal
When rookie fireballer Trevor Rosenthal made his first trip to St. Louis, it was obvious almost instantly that he was something special.
Between his 100 mph fastball and the general inability for almost anyone to hit off of him, he became a huge part of the Cardinals playoff run.

He pitched in a total of 19 regular season games before the 22-year-old rookie from Lee's Summit, Mo. got his first taste of postseason baseball and he put on quite a show.
In 8.2 IP over seven postseason appearances, Rosenthal held opponents to only two hits and no runs.
It's possible that down the stretch he may have already earned his spot in the rotation for 2013.

Shelby Miller
The long-coveted fastball pitching prospect Shelby Miller also made his first trip to St. Louis in 2012 and put on a good show.
In 13.2 IP over six regular season games, Miller surrendered only two runs on nine hits. His postseason performance was more of the same with two runs on four hits in 3.2 IP.

Despite a dismal first half of the season in Memphis, Miller got himself together and still managed to make one major league start before the end of the season -- a very impressive start at that.
Against the Cincinnati Reds in the final game of the regular season, Miller posted 5.2 hitless innings. He gave up no runs and collected his first major league win.

Expect to see a lot more of Miller in St. Louis early in 2013.

Joe Kelly
When Joe Kelly made his major league debut on June 10, few could have guessed the importance he would play throughout the remainder of the 2012 season.
Kelly started 16 games for the Cardinals this season filling in for Jaime Garcia and Lance Lynn, but it was the postseason when he really came through for his teammates.

When starting pitchers struggled time and again in October, it was Kelly who came to their rescue.
In seven postseason appearances, Kelly threw 7.2 innings and surrendered only two runs on six hits. Kelly came through for the Cardinals from the bullpen.
There's a good chance that could be his home in the future.

Mike Matheny
When the Cardinals hired Mike Matheny to take over for Tony LaRussa, many question bringing in a manager with no experience to such a storied franchise.

He had a few hiccups and growing pains along the way, but for a rookie manager to get his team where Matheny did this year speaks volumes.
His players have a strong respect for Matheny and credit his positive style with being a driving force behind their 2012 success.
True, he didn't get them through the NLCS, but the team made it to an all or nothing Game 7. That's good experience for the players obviously, but also for Matheny. Not only did he learn a lot about managing in the media pressure cooker that is postseason baseball, he also got a taste of what it felt like to win as a manager.

NLCS loss means more drive to win
While the NLCS loss was a good lesson for a young manager, it's an even more important lesson for a young player.
The 2011 championship lit a fire under young players like Lance Lynn and Jon Jay. That fire helped drive them to extremely successful sophomore seasons.

What happened in 2012 will likely do the same for Rosenthal, Miller and Kelly. Their 2013 season may not be like Jay or Lynn's 2012, but now they've gotten a little taste of what it feels like to be a winner.

Both the excitement and the public humbling can be a great experience for any young player.

The run was without several key components
In a season riddled with injuries, none were as crucial as those late in the season.
The loss of Lance Berkman and Rafael Furcal significantly weakened the team's bench. Instead of having Pete Kozma, Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter to pinch hit, the team wound up having to use them in the lineup.

The loss of Jaime Garcia and Jake Westbrook also rocked the Cardinals. Instead of having Lynn and Westbrook also available from the bullpen, Lynn was pushed back into the rotation after a very successful NLDS bullpen stint.

Having gotten as deep into the playoffs as the Cardinals did in spite of the injuries is quite the accomplishment.

They did it without Pujols, LaRussa and Duncan
Few in the world of sports gave the Cardinals a fighting chance when Albert Pujols left the team to play on the west coast. Surely this team couldn't be as good as they were?

Few gave them a chance after longtime manager Tony LaRussa decided it was time to retire.
Few gave them a chance after pitching coach Dave Duncan left the team.
The Cardinals did it despite all of that. That's something any fan should be proud of.

No, they didn't hoist a trophy. There will be no parade or tickertape.
What there is, though, is hope for next year and that will come sooner than you may think.
After all, pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training in just four short months.

From a blog I was sent on twitter: http://www.dailystatesman.com/blogs/...es/entry/50051

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Old 01-07-2013, 08:18 AM   #2506
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:32 AM   #2507
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It's not every day you offer up a ticket to come see the champs in an awesome ballpark and get called a bandwagon homo in return. That's about as ridiculous as me calling you the same thing. What a drama queen.
Hey, I'll take the tickets! That is an amazing park. I usually stay down at the wharf and take the trolley. I haven't unfortunately seen the Cards there yet. Only been out there a couple of times, but hope to catch a game there sometime soon.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:03 AM   #2508
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Hey, I'll take the tickets! That is an amazing park. I usually stay down at the wharf and take the trolley. I haven't unfortunately seen the Cards there yet. Only been out there a couple of times, but hope to catch a game there sometime soon.
If I move my firm I should have tickets on a pretty consisent basis. PM me if you are around.
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It's not every day you offer up a ticket to come see the champs in an awesome ballpark and get called a bandwagon homo in return. That's about as ridiculous as me calling you the same thing. What a drama queen.
Let's see:
1. No interest in going to San Francisco.
2. No interest in going to Pac-Bell or whatever the hell the name of their stadium is now.
3. No interest in watching a game (or do anything else) with you.

Any questions?
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Let's see:
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3. No interest in watching a game (or do anything else) with you.

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, not sure where all of that is coming from. I swear you are worse than depressed hormonal woman.
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I've been a Giants fan on the BB for over a decade you 2k post clown.
Since this is now a competition. I must represent the Cardinal fans..............

My son is a 5th generation Cardinal fan. Think about that for a second.

First you have to have 5 generations that care about baseball. Then they have to care and follow the same team. My great grandfather drove up to St. Louis from a farm in the Ozarks just to see a ball game in person. A real big deal back in 1920. My grandfather told me how happy going to that game made him and he talked about it for a long time after his return.

My son and me got to see a World series Championship won live in 2006. I'm sure there is going to be a 6th generation Cardinals fan in our family.
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, not sure where all of that is coming from. I swear you are worse than depressed hormonal woman.


The only reason we're having this dialogue is because you were trolling the thread.

I don't need to be pissed to say I don't give a **** about the Giants, San Francisco or you. Seriously. None of the above even remotely registers on the list of things I care about.
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That's just a deception, his real secret is hormonal. He always feels the need to bleed. He's just good at making it look like something else. Truth is he is an old, fat, short, angry man with no legacy that is angry at the world for being that way.
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That's just a deception, his real secret is hormonal. He always feels the need to bleed. He's just good at making it look like something else. Truth is he is an old, fat, short, angry man with no legacy that is angry at the world for being that way.
Yet you're the one who's all butthurt because I don't want to be your friend and fly out to gayferville for a visit. I'm sorry you don't have any friends who want to go to the game with you, sweetie. Maybe I'll send you a cardboard cutout to prop up in the seat next to you. You can even put a Giants hat on it.
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Yet you're the one who's all butthurt because I don't want to be your friend and fly out to gayferville for a visit. I'm sorry you don't have any friends who want to go to the game with you, sweetie. Maybe I'll send you a cardboard cutout to prop up in the seat next to you. You can even put a Giants hat on it.
That's what you got out of offering up a ticket if you came out? Amazing. Truth must really hurt.
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That's what you got out of offering up a ticket if you came out? Amazing. Truth must really hurt.
I can actually duplicate the experience of going to a Giants game with you without leaving Chicago. I'll just go down to the south side, find some semi-literate, blustering goon White Sox fan, then invite him to come watch a game at Wrigley. The only difference is, he'll probably drink beer instead of vitamin-enhanced fufu bottled water.
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I can actually duplicate the experience of going to a Giants game with you without leaving Chicago. I'll just go down to the south side, find some semi-literate, blustering goon White Sox fan, then invite him to come watch a game at Wrigley. The only difference is, he'll probably drink beer instead of vitamin-enhanced fufu bottled water.
It's over Tim, just walk away. There's a whole forum out there for you to bleed on. It's hard watching a bitter ol bitch for going on 13 years now but for the grace of god who knows there I could be and if I had to be you I might be just as bitter. Hope your life gets better, dude.

On another note you are about the last person I want representing the NRA. Being that I care about that subject so much I would appreciate it if you would replace your avatar. You do about as much for the movement as meme does for the Democratic party.
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