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Old 01-04-2012, 09:08 PM  
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***Offical 2012 STL Cardinals World Champions Thread ***

St. Louis Cardinals: 7 reasons fans should feel good about 2012

Posted Wednesday, October 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM

St. Louis Cardinals fans are likely feeling deflated after the collapse that put an end to the team's dreams of a World Series repeat, but there is good reason to be excited.

With all of the odds against them, the Cardinals managed to push their 2012 season beyond any anticipated boundary.

Given all of the season's changes and the adversity the team had to fight through, the fact that they played in October at all was an anomaly in itself. On paper, it made sense for the Cardinals to be in the playoffs, but few saw them as a true threat.
As the season continued, even fans began to doubt as they watched the team seemingly crumble in June and July. When the Cardinals finally came to life in September they went 11-5 in the last 16 games of the season to lock up the second Wild Card position in its inaugural year.

That run, despite it's crushing end in Cincinnati in Game 7 of the National League Championship Series, lots of good came from the Cardinals' season and playoff run.
Following in no particular order are 10 reasons Cardinals fans have to be excited about the 2013 season.

Trevor Rosenthal
When rookie fireballer Trevor Rosenthal made his first trip to St. Louis, it was obvious almost instantly that he was something special.
Between his 100 mph fastball and the general inability for almost anyone to hit off of him, he became a huge part of the Cardinals playoff run.

He pitched in a total of 19 regular season games before the 22-year-old rookie from Lee's Summit, Mo. got his first taste of postseason baseball and he put on quite a show.
In 8.2 IP over seven postseason appearances, Rosenthal held opponents to only two hits and no runs.
It's possible that down the stretch he may have already earned his spot in the rotation for 2013.

Shelby Miller
The long-coveted fastball pitching prospect Shelby Miller also made his first trip to St. Louis in 2012 and put on a good show.
In 13.2 IP over six regular season games, Miller surrendered only two runs on nine hits. His postseason performance was more of the same with two runs on four hits in 3.2 IP.

Despite a dismal first half of the season in Memphis, Miller got himself together and still managed to make one major league start before the end of the season -- a very impressive start at that.
Against the Cincinnati Reds in the final game of the regular season, Miller posted 5.2 hitless innings. He gave up no runs and collected his first major league win.

Expect to see a lot more of Miller in St. Louis early in 2013.

Joe Kelly
When Joe Kelly made his major league debut on June 10, few could have guessed the importance he would play throughout the remainder of the 2012 season.
Kelly started 16 games for the Cardinals this season filling in for Jaime Garcia and Lance Lynn, but it was the postseason when he really came through for his teammates.

When starting pitchers struggled time and again in October, it was Kelly who came to their rescue.
In seven postseason appearances, Kelly threw 7.2 innings and surrendered only two runs on six hits. Kelly came through for the Cardinals from the bullpen.
There's a good chance that could be his home in the future.

Mike Matheny
When the Cardinals hired Mike Matheny to take over for Tony LaRussa, many question bringing in a manager with no experience to such a storied franchise.

He had a few hiccups and growing pains along the way, but for a rookie manager to get his team where Matheny did this year speaks volumes.
His players have a strong respect for Matheny and credit his positive style with being a driving force behind their 2012 success.
True, he didn't get them through the NLCS, but the team made it to an all or nothing Game 7. That's good experience for the players obviously, but also for Matheny. Not only did he learn a lot about managing in the media pressure cooker that is postseason baseball, he also got a taste of what it felt like to win as a manager.

NLCS loss means more drive to win
While the NLCS loss was a good lesson for a young manager, it's an even more important lesson for a young player.
The 2011 championship lit a fire under young players like Lance Lynn and Jon Jay. That fire helped drive them to extremely successful sophomore seasons.

What happened in 2012 will likely do the same for Rosenthal, Miller and Kelly. Their 2013 season may not be like Jay or Lynn's 2012, but now they've gotten a little taste of what it feels like to be a winner.

Both the excitement and the public humbling can be a great experience for any young player.

The run was without several key components
In a season riddled with injuries, none were as crucial as those late in the season.
The loss of Lance Berkman and Rafael Furcal significantly weakened the team's bench. Instead of having Pete Kozma, Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter to pinch hit, the team wound up having to use them in the lineup.

The loss of Jaime Garcia and Jake Westbrook also rocked the Cardinals. Instead of having Lynn and Westbrook also available from the bullpen, Lynn was pushed back into the rotation after a very successful NLDS bullpen stint.

Having gotten as deep into the playoffs as the Cardinals did in spite of the injuries is quite the accomplishment.

They did it without Pujols, LaRussa and Duncan
Few in the world of sports gave the Cardinals a fighting chance when Albert Pujols left the team to play on the west coast. Surely this team couldn't be as good as they were?

Few gave them a chance after longtime manager Tony LaRussa decided it was time to retire.
Few gave them a chance after pitching coach Dave Duncan left the team.
The Cardinals did it despite all of that. That's something any fan should be proud of.

No, they didn't hoist a trophy. There will be no parade or tickertape.
What there is, though, is hope for next year and that will come sooner than you may think.
After all, pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training in just four short months.

From a blog I was sent on twitter: http://www.dailystatesman.com/blogs/...es/entry/50051

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Old 01-08-2013, 08:50 AM   #2521
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It's over Tim, just walk away. There's a whole forum out there for you to bleed on. It's hard watching a bitter ol bitch for going on 13 years now but for the grace of god who knows there I could be and if I had to be you I might be just as bitter. Hope your life gets better, dude.

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This is a thread for Cardinals fans, you stupid ****. Don't troll the thread, and we won't have any reason to talk - ever. It's frankly amazing watching you get bitchier, nastier and dumber by the post, all because I called you out for trolling a thread and don't stroke your bloated ego by telling you how great you are. You're not great - you're a ****ing moron. My life is fine, and I don't need validation for it from some window-licking goon on the internet. I don't care about you, the bi-sexual whore you married, the brat she shat out, or your slavoring ****ing hellhound. I don't care what you think of me, the NRA, or anything else. And if you go start another Giants thread, I promise, I won't care about that, either.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:00 AM   #2522
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And to fellow Cardinal fans, my apologies for this. I just can't seem to flick this booger off my finger.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:22 AM   #2523
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This is a thread for Cardinals fans, you stupid ****. Don't troll the thread, and we won't have any reason to talk - ever. It's frankly amazing watching you get bitchier, nastier and dumber by the post, all because I called you out for trolling a thread and don't stroke your bloated ego by telling you how great you are. You're not great - you're a ****ing moron. My life is fine, and I don't need validation for it from some window-licking goon on the internet. I don't care about you, the bi-sexual whore you married, the brat she shat out, or your slavoring ****ing hellhound. I don't care what you think of me, the NRA, or anything else. And if you go start another Giants thread, I promise, I won't care about that, either.
You can't just go after people's family members because you lack the IQ to address an issue anymore. Your unwarranted personal attacks are off the charts but when you go after family members that's not going to continue to happen. That is a bannable offense.

The way you treated Jim when he just was a dying man just wanting to make peace with you was far and away the most pathetic act in this BB's history. How you have been allowed to remain here is still a mystery to me.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:28 AM   #2524
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And to fellow Cardinal fans, my apologies for this. I just can't seem to flick this booger off my finger.
It was good drama to read on a boring morning, no worries.

I have been to "Insert Current Name Here" Field in SF and it is a very nice stadium with pretty knowledgeable baseball fans (at least the folks right around me). With that said, I wouldn't shed a tear if the state of California slid into the ocean tomorrow.
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You can't just go after people's family members because you lack the IQ to address an issue anymore. Your unwarranted personal attacks are off the charts but when you go after family members that's not going to continue to happen. That is a bannable offense.

The way you treated Jim when he just was a dying man just wanting to make peace with you was far and away the most pathetic act in this BB's history. How you have been allowed to remain here is still a mystery to me.
I CAN DISH IT OUT BUT I CAN'T TAKE IT Same old Bitch Daddy. The only issue here is you being a ****ing troll and me calling you on it. The nastiness was all started by you - I just responded in kind. Nice fantasy about Jim, too. It's a bald-faced lie, but don't let that stop you. ****ing clown.

And if you want to get me banned, by all means, go cry to mods about it like the whiny bitch that you are and always have been. Let me know how that works out for you.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #2526
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I CAN DISH IT OUT BUT I CAN'T TAKE IT Same old Bitch Daddy. The only issue here is you being a ****ing troll and me calling you on it. The nastiness was all started by you - I just responded in kind. Nice fantasy about Jim, too. It's a bald-faced lie, but don't let that stop you. ****ing clown.

And if you want to get me banned, by all means, go cry to mods about it like the whiny bitch that you are and always have been. Let me know how that works out for you.
Only you would see attacking other peopleís family members as dishing it out. Truth is itís something a pathetic little bitch bellied coward resorts to from behind the safety of his keyboard because of a lack of an ability to dish it out. Youíre pathetic.

You know what happened with Jim, that's all that's important.
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Only you would see attacking other peopleís family members as dishing it out. Truth is itís something a pathetic little bitch bellied coward resorts to from behind the safety of his keyboard because of a lack of an ability to dish it out. Youíre pathetic.

You know what happened with Jim, that's all that's important.
Maybe you shouldn't have bragged about you and your wife having bisexual threesomes on the board, champ (unlike your baseless allegations about Jim, that actually happened). I mean, chicks like that certainly serve a purpose (they ran about $10 a night when I was in Rio back in '84 IIRC), but most people pay them to go away - they don't marry them. But hey, whatever flips your switch. I realize it was the best you could do.

And BTW, how's that banning thing working out for you?
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I just saw where the Rangers signed Berkman to a 1 year $11MM contract. I love what Berkman did for the Cards in 2011 but holy Jesus $11MM?

That is ridiculous, even if he hits 20 HR and drives in 80 which I bet he won't he is worth half that $.
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I just saw where the Rangers signed Berkman to a 1 year $11MM contract. I love what Berkman did for the Cards in 2011 but holy Jesus $11MM?

That is ridiculous, even if he hits 20 HR and drives in 80 which I bet he won't he is worth half that $.
$1.1 million seems like a better number, maybe they accidentally misplaced a decimal point in the contract. Nothing against Berkman, but he is a broken baseball player at this point.
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$1.1 million seems like a better number, maybe they accidentally misplaced a decimal point in the contract. Nothing against Berkman, but he is a broken baseball player at this point.
The article I linked (buried now beneath all the BD bullshit) said $10 million. Seems like a lot to me as well, but I don't care. Much like Albert, he's getting paid by somebody else for what he already did for us.
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Not too surprising, but definitely good to see some recognition for the talent nearly available.

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Not too surprising that Chris Carpenter probably out for the season.

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