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Old 01-08-2013, 01:17 PM  
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Texas A&M LT Joeckel is coming out for draft

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Texas A&M LT Luke Joeckel is skipping his SR yr to enter NFL draft, per source as initially reported by @billyliucci
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:59 PM   #106
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Joeckel is a better prospect than Jake Long. No question. But can't go OT here. Just can't.
Wrong.

Joeckel is VERY athletic and has excellent feet. Superb pass blocker.

He's also used to playing in spread spacing on the edge and struggles at the point of attack. Mediocre run blocker. Will struggle to adapt to NFL defenses.

Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Long. Long had a MUCH higher floor. MUCH higher.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:59 PM   #107
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lol.. Really? If its such horseshit, how does Colin Klein make it as a Heisman finalist and your God Geno doesn't?

This QB class is SO good that a Freshman QB won just about every major QB award.
Ah...now I see the caliber of opponent I'm dealing with here.

I feel that I wasted a shitload of time with my last post. Afterall, everyone knows that college performance is clearly how one determines future success at the NFL level. Afterall, Chris Weinke, Tim Tebow, Jason White, all of those badass college QBs that ran around a lot and won Heisman's were clearly studs. Tebow winning in 2007 clearly meant that the Falcons had no business drafting Matt Ryan. The Packers clearly should've gone with Leinart over Rodgers.

Get this shit out of here. Now you're going to get blasted for being an idiot because you've proven yourself to be an idiot with 'logic' such as this.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:00 PM   #108
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Well, guess its good to know that we don't have to send our scouts out to look at any 1st round talent. We already have the pick sown up in January.

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Old 01-08-2013, 03:02 PM   #109
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:02 PM   #110
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Wrong.

Joeckel is VERY athletic and has excellent feet. Superb pass blocker.

He's also used to playing in spread spacing on the edge and struggles at the point of attack. Mediocre run blocker. Will struggle to adapt to NFL defenses.

Joeckel has a higher ceiling than Long. Long had a MUCH higher floor. MUCH higher.
He played one year in the "spread" offense. He's only a mediocre run blocker because he is white and baby-faced. You're wrong.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:05 PM   #111
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He played one year in the "spread" offense. He's only a mediocre run blocker because he is white and baby-faced. You're wrong.
You an A&M fan, are ya?

I suppose you think he's the best LT prospect in the last decade too, right?

He played in a pro-style offense last year and was anything but "dominant".
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:06 PM   #112
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You an A&M fan, are ya?

I suppose you think he's the best LT prospect in the last decade too, right?

He played in a pro-style offense last year and was anything but "dominant".
Actually he was. And he's kept Matthews on the right side for a reason. I am an ATM fan, but I don't think Im a homer. Don't really like Porter as a prospect and I think Moore is overrated by many as a pass rusher--though I still think he will be a damn good player
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:09 PM   #113
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And Im not really sure who I would put ahead of Joeckel. So maybe. At least top 3.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:14 PM   #114
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Ah...now I see the caliber of opponent I'm dealing with here.

I feel that I wasted a shitload of time with my last post. Afterall, everyone knows that college performance is clearly how one determines future success at the NFL level. Afterall, Chris Weinke, Tim Tebow, Jason White, all of those badass college QBs that ran around a lot and won Heisman's were clearly studs. Tebow winning in 2007 clearly meant that the Falcons had no business drafting Matt Ryan. The Packers clearly should've gone with Leinart over Rodgers.

Get this shit out of here. Now you're going to get blasted for being an idiot because you've proven yourself to be an idiot with 'logic' such as this.

Oh, I know the record of Heismans not projecting to the NFL. My point was that its basically turning into the best QB in the country award, and the top guys for the draft weren't in the conversation.

When McNabb was selected by Philly, he was a finalist. Just making some comparisons that worry me.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:16 PM   #115
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You an A&M fan, are ya?

I suppose you think he's the best LT prospect in the last decade too, right?

He played in a pro-style offense last year and was anything but "dominant".
He also turned 20 in Novemeber of that year. Though you are still misinformed. Every A&M fan knew what they had coming into this year.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:17 PM   #116
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That happens to us, Cleveland, and Buffalo all the time.

Unsexy cities. Unremarkable teams. Boring. Subconsciously they want to see great draft picks paired up with teams that would look really hot with them. They don't want to mock any of the good ones to us.

Tackles, guards, DTs, and MLBs oh my!
Well since Carl Peterson and Marty took over, that is predominately what they have done, pick the fatties in the first.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:20 PM   #117
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Ah...now I see the caliber of opponent I'm dealing with here.

I feel that I wasted a shitload of time with my last post. Afterall, everyone knows that college performance is clearly how one determines future success at the NFL level. Afterall, Chris Weinke, Tim Tebow, Jason White, all of those badass college QBs that ran around a lot and won Heisman's were clearly studs. Tebow winning in 2007 clearly meant that the Falcons had no business drafting Matt Ryan. The Packers clearly should've gone with Leinart over Rodgers.

Get this shit out of here. Now you're going to get blasted for being an idiot because you've proven yourself to be an idiot with 'logic' such as this.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:29 PM   #118
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He also turned 20 in Novemeber of that year. Though you are still misinformed. Every A&M fan knew what they had coming into this year.
Luke Joeckel = Jason Smith.
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Luke Joeckel = Jason Smith.
Geno Smith = Christian Ponder

see, I can do that too
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Luke Joeckel = Jason Smith.
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