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Old 01-08-2013, 04:11 PM  
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Early AFC West salary-cap check
January, 8, 2013
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

The focus is on 2013 for all but eight teams in the NFL.

Teams will soon be readying for free agency. To get a feel for what teams will have to spend in free agency, ESPNís John Clayton has the current salary-cap numbers.

Please remember all salary-cap numbers are fluid and things change. But this gives you a working idea of where each team stands.

In the AFC West, the best team is in the best cap standing. The Broncos, who host Baltimore on Saturday in the divisional playoff round, are $18.5 million under the cap. They should be able to add some solid pieces if they wish. They do have to either extend or give the franchise tag to standout left tackle Ryan Clady. That will take up some space.

The Chiefs continue to be in good cap health. It is $16.1 million under the cap. It has free agents, receiver Dwayne Bowe, left tackle Branden Albert and punter Dustin Colquitt, to deal with. I think Albert and Colquitt are more likely to return to Kansas City at this point, but it has flexibility.

San Diego is $8.7 million under the cap. It should be enough to get a couple of starters. The Chargers need the most help on the offensive line.

Meanwhile, Oakland is one of 10 teams currently over the salary cap. Oakland is $4.5 million over the cap. It was severely over the cap last season. This year, the Raiders, who will have to address punter Shane Lechler, tight end Brandon Myers and linebacker Philip Wheeler in free agency, will still have to make a lot of tough decisions and will have to tweak some contracts again. But they should be able to do a little more than they did last
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012...t-cap-strategy
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:36 PM   #31
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You wouldn't trade the second pick in teh second round for Harvin?

No maybe a 4th.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:42 PM   #32
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I think this team desperately needs some veterans, but not in the draft.

Bring in 3 or 4 vets in FA and then inject the team with youth through the draft.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:43 PM   #33
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No maybe a 4th.
Yeah, I'm sure that'll get him.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:44 PM   #34
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Yeah, I'm sure that'll get him.
Injury and coachability concerns have harpooned trade value before. I'm not saying a fourth will get him, but it really wouldn't surprise me, frankly, if the vikings are tired of his shit.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:46 PM   #35
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They'd be dumb as shit to deal him for that.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:48 PM   #36
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What are you thinking?


Who should we target?
Albert and Bowe at all costs. Get them back.

We desperately need another safety. At this point I don't care if it's FS or SS, just get someone in here to make Lewis what he should be - a nice depth safety.

An established interior lineman, ideally a center. You'll also want at least one versatile backup as well.

I don't like the CB market; it's overpriced and looking very mediocre this year so I think you're a little hamstrung there. Any 'box' players would require knowing the defense we prefer first.

And I think you use the rest to extend a trade target. You go after Harvin or Maclin and sign them long-term.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:49 PM   #37
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$16.1 million under the cap BEFORE we release Tyson Jackson and Matt Cassel. We'll be in fine shape.
This.

How much will space will be added when we flush those turds?
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:49 PM   #38
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Yeah, I'm sure that'll get him.


ESPN Twin Cities reports Percy Harvin and coach Leslie Frazier had yet another heated exchange that likely contributed to the receiver being placed on injured reserve earlier this month.
It's the third documented issue with Harvin and the organization since June. The exchange is believed to have begun in the training room and has fueled speculation that the "deteriorating" relationship between the two men could lead to Harvin's exit from Minnesota. Seeking a new contract and frustrated with the identity of the Vikings offense, Harvin briefly issued a trade request last offseason. The team will have to decide whether to offer him a long-term deal heavy on performance-based incentives and escalators or prepare to shop him in March and April. One NFL personnel man estimates that Harvin would draw a second- or third-round pick in a contract year.


Plus he's missed games the last 2 years. No team is gonna give them a 2nd round pick.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:49 PM   #39
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How come Denver is referred to as "they" and we are referred to as "it"?

Rude.
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Albert and Bowe at all costs. Get them back.

We desperately need another safety. At this point I don't care if it's FS or SS, just get someone in here to make Lewis what he should be - a nice depth safety.

An established interior lineman, ideally a center.
You'll also want at least one versatile backup as well.

I don't like the CB market; it's overpriced and looking very mediocre this year so I think you're a little hamstrung there. Any 'box' players would require knowing the defense we prefer first.

And I think you use the rest to extend a trade target. You go after Harvin or Maclin and sign them long-term.
I agree with everything but this. Rodney Hudson was the most decorated OL at FSU for a reason.

He's gonna be a very solid C for years.
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ESPN Twin Cities reports Percy Harvin and coach Leslie Frazier had yet another heated exchange that likely contributed to the receiver being placed on injured reserve earlier this month.
It's the third documented issue with Harvin and the organization since June. The exchange is believed to have begun in the training room and has fueled speculation that the "deteriorating" relationship between the two men could lead to Harvin's exit from Minnesota. Seeking a new contract and frustrated with the identity of the Vikings offense, Harvin briefly issued a trade request last offseason. The team will have to decide whether to offer him a long-term deal heavy on performance-based incentives and escalators or prepare to shop him in March and April. One NFL personnel man estimates that Harvin would draw a second- or third-round pick in a contract year.


Plus he's missed games the last 2 years. No team is gonna give them a 2nd round pick.
I'd be surprised if it only took a 4th for him.

Not interested though. Misses too many games.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:52 PM   #42
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They'd be dumb as shit to deal him for that.
IMO we would be dumb as shit to give up that.
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I agree with everything but this. Rodney Hudson was the most decorated OL at FSU for a reason.

He's gonna be a very solid C for years.
Good. Play him at G. The position he PLAYED HIS ENTIRE CAREER AT FSU.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:52 PM   #44
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Spending picks on veterans should be absolutely out of the question this season.

The Chiefs choose either #1 or #2 in each round, in addition to the additional 3rd rounder (which cannot be traded) for Carr.

They need to load up on young talent, not trade it away.
Maclin and Harvin are both 24 - how are either of them not 'young talent'?

Those are exactly the kinds of guys you would be willing to give away a good pick for. No, you don't give a pick up for a guy like Jennings, but both Harvin and Maclin have 5+ years left in their primes. And they're sure-fire NFL contributors. They've gone through the WR learning curve (which is surprisingly steep) and they fit our need across from Bowe perfectly.

Look, I know we want to stockpile talent and getting rid of picks hurts, but even the best GMs bat .500 on a good day. If you could trade a 2nd rounder for a guy like Harvin or a 3rd for Maclin, you're getting exactly what you're asking for - young talent.

Or you could keep them and get young...something. Maybe it's young talent, maybe it's young roster fodder. It's almost certainly not going to be better than Harvin and the odds suggest it not being better than Maclin.
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