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Old 01-08-2013, 04:11 PM  
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Early AFC West salary-cap check
January, 8, 2013
By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

The focus is on 2013 for all but eight teams in the NFL.

Teams will soon be readying for free agency. To get a feel for what teams will have to spend in free agency, ESPNís John Clayton has the current salary-cap numbers.

Please remember all salary-cap numbers are fluid and things change. But this gives you a working idea of where each team stands.

In the AFC West, the best team is in the best cap standing. The Broncos, who host Baltimore on Saturday in the divisional playoff round, are $18.5 million under the cap. They should be able to add some solid pieces if they wish. They do have to either extend or give the franchise tag to standout left tackle Ryan Clady. That will take up some space.

The Chiefs continue to be in good cap health. It is $16.1 million under the cap. It has free agents, receiver Dwayne Bowe, left tackle Branden Albert and punter Dustin Colquitt, to deal with. I think Albert and Colquitt are more likely to return to Kansas City at this point, but it has flexibility.

San Diego is $8.7 million under the cap. It should be enough to get a couple of starters. The Chargers need the most help on the offensive line.

Meanwhile, Oakland is one of 10 teams currently over the salary cap. Oakland is $4.5 million over the cap. It was severely over the cap last season. This year, the Raiders, who will have to address punter Shane Lechler, tight end Brandon Myers and linebacker Philip Wheeler in free agency, will still have to make a lot of tough decisions and will have to tweak some contracts again. But they should be able to do a little more than they did last
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:09 PM   #61
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You wouldn't give a 4th for Harvin?

for done reason I thought the whole conversation was about the 2.2 pick.

I would probably give a 4
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:09 PM   #62
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His skills.

Granted, I'm a Mizzou fan, but do you remember Maclin in college and coming out? He was as electric as anyone out there. Those skills haven't deteriorated. He's still incredibly explosive in and out of his cuts and can get behind most secondaries.

I honestly think his problem in Philly is DeSean Jackson. They have Jackson running the routes that Maclin would be best at and they have Maclin running the patterns that you want someone like Bowe running. I think Maclin alongside Bowe would be one of the best #2 WRs in football and would provide a huge boost to everyone on the offense by spreading the field.

Bailey is not more physically gifted than Maclin - he just isn't. So I see nothing to suggest that Bailey would be better than Maclin at this level other than the unknown which captivates us every draft season.
I don't care.

The Chiefs have far greater needs at #34 and #77 than to spend it on a receiver opposite Bowe, who I fully expect to be re-signed.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:09 PM   #63
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for done reason I thought the whole conversation was about the 2.2 pick.

I would probably give a 4
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:10 PM   #64
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I'm not really a mu fan but I would take Maclin
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:10 PM   #65
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for done reason I thought the whole conversation was about the 2.2 pick.

I would probably give a 4
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There's no way I'd give a 4th rounder for Harvin. First off, his availability is unpredictable. He fights with his head coach and has an attitude. That's the last thing Andy Reid needs in his locker room, especially considering the failure the Chiefs have experienced over the past 4 years and will likely experience in 2013.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:10 PM   #66
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I agree. I think it would be very wise for us to draft a C with our 4th round pick. I think that Khaled Holmes or Graham Pocic would be a nice insurance policy and both should be there.

Then again, if Barrett Jones is there at 34, it would be extremely difficult to overlook him. That guy is going to be a pro bowler for years.
Barrett Jones has a lisc franc injury.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:11 PM   #67
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And I agree that Jackson runs the routes Maclin should run and he would be a beast beside Bowe
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:12 PM   #68
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There's no way I'd give a 4th rounder for Harvin. First off, his availability is unpredictable. He fights with his head coach and has an attitude. That's the last thing Andy Reid needs in his locker room, especially considering the failure the Chiefs have experienced over the past 4 years and will likely experience in 2013.
I can see your side of this too.

If the team REALLY checked him out and gave themselves an out in the contract I would be ok with a 4
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:13 PM   #69
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Didn't Harvin miss a PLAYOFF game because of the migraines?

I mean shit man...
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:16 PM   #70
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So, Breaston and Baldwin aren't number 2 threats in Reid's offense? Wiley was fast as **** at The Combines and seems to have decent hands.

The Chiefs, IMO, have far greater needs with their high picks than a ****ing 2nd WR. They need a starter at CB, safety, ILB in addition to depth everywhere. I'd also like to see them take a developmental QB with their compensatory pick or their 4th rounder.

Maclin is a luxury the Chiefs can't afford this year. Plus, again, I don't think he's anything special. And **** Harvin.
Eh, could be.

I think the Chiefs can survive without Maclin or Harvin - sure. Pretty easily, in fact. But I'm also willing to do whatever possible to make things easier for a new QB.

Baldwin can't be counted on for anything, to be honest. I think Breaston might be a decent 3rd option, but I have a hard time seeing him step up as a #2 at 30 yrs old after never really being that before. Wiley's hands were garbage this year, he's too small and he sure doesn't play to his 40 time from what I've seen. Maybe he could be a slot option, but I'm inclined to not put too much stock into it.

I want to see the new QB and Reid's new attack approach succeed and I think a way to really give them the best shot is an establish young veteran WR.
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Here we go with the Breaston debate again.

He's just fine as a #2. He proved that in 2011.

If we get Harvin he needs to play in the slot anyway.
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If the Raiders release Big Dic Seymour, grab him up.
Seymour will most definitely be gone. Raiders are gutting the roster and rebuilding it. No one will even recognize the guys on the team in a couple of years. Go ahead and sign him. He'll be too hurt to practice, but he'll suddenly recover in time for game day. Then, he'll make a play once every blue moon when he feels like it.
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ESPN Twin Cities reports Percy Harvin and coach Leslie Frazier had yet another heated exchange that likely contributed to the receiver being placed on injured reserve earlier this month.
It's the third documented issue with Harvin and the organization since June. The exchange is believed to have begun in the training room and has fueled speculation that the "deteriorating" relationship between the two men could lead to Harvin's exit from Minnesota. Seeking a new contract and frustrated with the identity of the Vikings offense, Harvin briefly issued a trade request last offseason. The team will have to decide whether to offer him a long-term deal heavy on performance-based incentives and escalators or prepare to shop him in March and April. One NFL personnel man estimates that Harvin would draw a second- or third-round pick in a contract year.


Plus he's missed games the last 2 years. No team is gonna give them a 2nd round pick.
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