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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:40 PM   #91
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:42 PM   #92
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I think Andy Reid has Geno locked in, but would move the pick for the right price.

Before we hired Andy, I was adamant about not trading down...but if the guy adds a couple extra firsts and still comes out of the draft with Barkley, Geno, Wilson or Bray...I'd be ok with it.

I trust Andy Reids evaluation.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:43 PM   #93
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I think Andy Reid has Geno locked in, but would move the pick for the right price.

Before we hired Andy, I was adamant about not trading down...but if the guy adds a couple extra firsts and still comes out of the draft with Barkley, Geno, Wilson or Bray...I'd be ok with it.

I trust Andy Reids evaluation.
If somebody is trading up, it's for a QB.

Trading down is just asking to end up empty-handed. Forget it.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:44 PM   #94
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I think Andy Reid has Geno locked in, but would move the pick for the right price.

Before we hired Andy, I was adamant about not trading down...but if the guy adds a couple extra firsts and still comes out of the draft with Barkley, Geno, Wilson or Bray...I'd be ok with it.

I trust Andy Reids evaluation.
The ONLY situation I would be okay with is moving back to #2 so the Jags could take this guy and we can still be assured Geno.
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I think Andy Reid has Geno locked in, but would move the pick for the right price.

Before we hired Andy, I was adamant about not trading down...but if the guy adds a couple extra firsts and still comes out of the draft with Barkley, Geno, Wilson or Bray...I'd be ok with it.

I trust Andy Reids evaluation.
I trust his evaluation too. He should take whichever QB he believes in. Even if that's Barkley.

But he needs to do it with the first overall pick. Trading down and hoping his guy will still be there is just asking for a ****ing disaster.

I do NOT want to get St. Louis Rams'd and be forced into a zillion trade downs. And they got off pretty easy only dealing in stuff like missed CBs and DTs they wanted. We're talking about our QB here. The stakes are way too goddamn high.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:49 PM   #96
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I think there is a plot by the NY Jets luvin media to spead lies that Geno is not worth an early first round pick so that there is hope that he might be there when they pick.
That's some Alex Jones shit there.
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I trust his evaluation too. He should take whichever QB he believes in. Even if that's Barkley.

But he needs to do it with the first overall pick. Trading down and hoping his guy will still be there is just asking for a ****ing disaster.

I do NOT want to get St. Louis Rams'd and be forced into a zillion trade downs. And they got off pretty easy only dealing in stuff like missed CBs and DTs they wanted. We're talking about our QB here. The stakes are way too goddamn high.
I'm with ya...I'm just saying I wouldn't be pissed if he went that direction.

What if he grades 3 quarterbacks evenly and can add 2 extra firsts moving to 4 or 5?...he would still get one of them.
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I trust his evaluation too. He should take whichever QB he believes in. Even if that's Barkley.

But he needs to do it with the first overall pick. Trading down and hoping his guy will still be there is just asking for a ****ing disaster.

I do NOT want to get St. Louis Rams'd and be forced into a zillion trade downs. And they got off pretty easy only dealing in stuff like missed CBs and DTs they wanted. We're talking about our QB here. The stakes are way too goddamn high.
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Can you name one "true fan" that believes Cassel is a good QB?

This stupid "true fan" meme is getting really old.
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I think Andy Reid has Geno locked in, but would move the pick for the right price.
Why do you even think he's had five minutes to even look at Smith on film this past week?
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Why do you even think he's had five minutes to even look at Smith on film this past week?
I am betting that he had to take a break while watching the Chiefs games. He was getting depressed and needed a little pick me up.
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Why do you even think he's had five minutes to even look at Smith on film this past week?
He watched every chiefs game in one day.

He knows that his decision at quarterback will impact his success in KC far more than every other factor combined.

I'd bet that he has spent time watching film of Smith.
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He watched every chiefs game in one day.

He knows that his decision at quarterback will impact his success in KC far more than every other factor combined.

I'd bet that he has spent time watching film of Smith.
I'd bet he's been too busy moving, assembling his staff, finding a place to live, etc.

Moving across the country isn't an easy thing to do.
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I'd bet he's been too busy moving, assembling his staff, finding a place to live, etc.

Moving across the country isn't an easy thing to do.
I doubt he's broken down any film on Geno. He might have watched his bowl game but that is probably about it, unless Clark directed that i.e. "Here are some youtube vids of QBs this year. Which one do you like? If you say Mike Glennon, I'll ****ing stab you".

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I doubt he's broken down any film on Geno. He might have watched his bowl game but that is probably about it, unless Clark directed that i.e. "Here are some youtube vids of QBs this year. Which one do you like? If you say Mike Glennon, I'll ****ing stab you".

Best part about this Reid hire?

I haven't heard the name "Mike Glennon" in several days.
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