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Old 01-08-2013, 08:25 PM  
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It's about time we do something about Notre Dame

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http://www.faniq.com/blog/Notre-Dame...nce-Blog-60220

Last night, Notre Dame got absolutely obliterated by Alabama in the BCS title game. Just like I said they would. More than once.

This should have come as a surprise to exactly no one.

No matter how anyone tries to hype up Notre Dame's regular season schedule, there's not a chance in hell that they actually proved that they deserved their #1 ranking.

They stumbled into the #1 spot by default, because great SEC football teams beat other great SEC football teams.

Alabama's only loss was to fellow SEC powerhouse Texas A&M.
Georgia's only losses were to Alabama and South Carolina, both from the SEC.
Texas A&M lost a couple nail-biters to fellow SEC schools Florida and LSU.
South Carolina's only losses were also to Florida and LSU.
Before losing their bowl games, Florida and LSU had only lost to SEC teams.

All 6 of those teams could be considered among the top 10 teams in the country. And they all had to play several games against each other, because they're in an elite conference loaded with talent.

Other teams in top conferences have stretches of 6 to 8 games in a row in which they have to play top level teams.

Then, if they're fortunate enough to have a successful season, they have to play a conference championship game, which essentially amounts to one additional game against an elite team.

Notre Dame, thanks to their independent status, doesn't have to worry about that.

They can schedule their annual cakewalks against service academies and their "rivalry" with fellow Catholic school Boston College. They can use their other "rivalry" game against USC to pad their strength of schedule, and hope that no one notices that USC finished the season unranked and was one of the most overrated teams in the country.

They can play close games against mediocre teams like Purdue, Pitt, BYU, and Michigan, and still manage to default their way into the the National Championship game.

Let's ignore the fact that Georgia and Alabama were both far better teams, but had to play each other in the SEC Championship, essentially eliminating one of them.

If there was an 8-team playoff, Notre Dame would have gotten rolled by the #8 team, who would have been South Carolina, the 4th-best SEC team.

If you look at Notre Dame's recent bowl history, it's clear that they've benefited from their delusional (but large) fan base, and the fact that they haven't needed to actually win a conference to get into a BCS bowl.

Notre Dame has lost 11 of their last 13 bowl games.

They're 0-4 in BCS bowls (including last night's championship), and lost those 4 games by a combined score of 158-57.

That's right. Notre Dame has lost their 4 BCS bowl games by an average of 25 points per game.

Is there any doubt that they're being overrated and overhyped coming into bowl games?


The solution:

The NCAA should ban Notre Dame (and every other independent team, for fairness' sake) from bowl games until they join a conference.

It's absolutely insane that Notre Dame gets to play by a completely different set of rules than every other team, but still gets treated as if their undefeated record is just as impressive as another undefeated team.

Until the Irish have to go through a legitimate conference schedule and win a conference championship game, they'll continue to be placed in bowl games that they don't deserve. They'll continue to get blown out by teams that earned their bowl bid the hard way, and they'll steal BCS spots from far more deserving teams who had far more difficult roads to the postseason.

Until the NCAA forces Notre Dame's hand, fans will continue to suffer through these atrocities. It's simply not right, and fans deserve better.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:05 AM   #31
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IT SUCKS because there is little parity

BIG GAME = BIG BLOWOUTS most of the time...
This.

It has nothing to do with ND and everything to do with how college football decides their champ...
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:09 AM   #32
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Notre Dame scheduled Michigan, Michigan State, Miami, USC, Oklahoma, and Stanford and I'm supposed to think they schedule a bunch of cupcakes or something? Even BYU, Pitt, and Purdue aren't some kind of little directional schools. The idea that they played a soft schedule is dumb.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:29 AM   #33
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I think your hatred of the pro-SEC reporting is getting in the way of the article's point.



That is EXACTLY the point of the article. ND gets to pick and choose who they play, rather than being forced to run a gauntlet through a conference. USC is the only team of any merit that they play. Maybe Michigan.
ND beat Stanford you drooling retard. You know, the team that beat Oregon. The Irish played a horrible game and were dominated by Alabama. It happens, but that doesn't take away from their undefeated regular season and prove that they shouldn't have been playing in the game at all.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:39 AM   #34
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ND beat Stanford you drooling retard. You know, the team that beat Oregon. The Irish played a horrible game and were dominated by Alabama. It happens, but that doesn't take away from their undefeated regular season and prove that they shouldn't have been playing in the game at all.
They have played Stanford for a long time, and they weren't really expected to be that good this year anyway. There is a reason Shaw is being considered for multiple Coach of the Year awards.

That is why I listed USC as a "good" team on their schedule. Scheduling Oklahoma is more impressive than Stanford and is really the team I missed on their schedule.

They played:

Navy
Purdue
Michigan State
An awful Miami
BYU
Pittsburgh
Boston College
Wake Forest

All of those are cupcuke games. EIGHT cupcake games. Kudos that Notre Dame managed to win on their weak schedule this year, but their schedule is weak.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:41 AM   #35
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ND beat Stanford you drooling retard. You know, the team that beat Oregon. The Irish played a horrible game and were dominated by Alabama. It happens, but that doesn't take away from their undefeated regular season and prove that they shouldn't have been playing in the game at all.
Again...why does ND get a shot at the title when going undefeated when others don't?
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:46 AM   #36
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Again...why does ND get a shot at the title when going undefeated when others don't?
Because they were the only undefeated team this year?
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:54 AM   #37
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ND went undefeated when no one else did including wins against, prior to the bowls, #11 Oklahoma, #6 Stanford, and #18 Michigan. Yes - they should have lost to Pittsburgh, and perhaps Purdue. Yes - Taylor did get in the endzone in OT despite what the officials wrongly ruled. But they won those games and deserved to be in the NC game this year.


But don't worry. In 2014 we will get a 4-team playoff and it has already been announced that there will be no limit to the number of teams from a particular conference in the new four-team playoff format.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:00 AM   #38
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:07 AM   #39
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ND belonged in the game as much as anyone. Nobody was beating Alabama that night, and the right tea won the title. The BCS is ****ed up, but they crown the best team as champions more than any other sport.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:12 AM   #40
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Again...why does ND get a shot at the title when going undefeated when others don't?
If Oregon and k state would have won they would have played for the NC and notre dame would have played in the fiesta
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:14 AM   #41
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If Oregon and k state would have won they would have played for the NC and notre dame would have played in the fiesta
and Alabama would have been left out in the cold. All would have been right with the universe.
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ND went undefeated when no one else did including wins against, prior to the bowls, #11 Oklahoma, #6 Stanford, and #18 Michigan. Yes - they should have lost to Pittsburgh, and perhaps Purdue. Yes - Taylor did get in the endzone in OT despite what the officials wrongly ruled. But they won those games and deserved to be in the NC game this year.


But don't worry. In 2014 we will get a 4-team playoff and it has already been announced that there will be no limit to the number of teams from a particular conference in the new four-team playoff format.
4 isn't enough.

If we had a 4 team playoff this year, Kansas State, A&M, and Louisville would have been out. Not that they should have gone in over Oregon, Florida, ND, and Bama but they all 3 ABSOLUTELY deserved a shot.
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and Alabama would have been left out in the cold. All would have been right with the universe.
You're pathetic.
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What can I say. I can't stand the SEC.
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4 isn't enough.

If we had a 4 team playoff this year, Kansas State, A&M, and Louisville would have been out. Not that they should have gone in over Oregon, Florida, ND, and Bama but they all 3 ABSOLUTELY deserved a shot.
Meh. At the end of the season A&M and Louisville both had two losses. K-State would have been the only 1-loss (debatable deserving) team left out and, consequently, they'd be the only 1-loss team that was 1) blown out and 2) blown out by an unranked team.
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