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Old 01-08-2013, 06:59 PM  
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Luke Joeckel may pique Chiefs’ interest at No. 1 overall

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/08/luke-jo...-no-1-overall/

For as long as Luke Joeckel remains on the draft board in April, he’s likely to be seriously considered by whichever team happens to be on the clock.

The Chiefs, by virtue of holding the No. 1 overall pick, will have first crack at the standout Texas A&M offensive tackle. Joeckel finalized his plan Tuesday to enter the 2013 NFL Draft, according to multiple reports.

The 6-foot-6 Joeckel played a key role in Johnny Manziel’s sudden takeover of college football this season. Despite playing against elite SEC talent, week in and week out, Joeckel turned in a dominant 2012 and is considered to be, for now, the top available offensive lineman for the coming draft.

How strongly Kansas City leans toward Joeckel depends on a number of factors, not the least of which being Branden Albert’s pending free agency.

The Chiefs face the usual options with Albert set to hit the market: re-sign him, let him walk or slap the franchise tag on him. That third choice would cost the Chiefs just shy of $10 million, but it’s hard to see them allowing their starting left tackle to walk.

The variable that could push them toward that money-saving decision is Joeckel. If the Chiefs convince themselves in the coming couple of weeks that Joeckel is capable of filling Albert’s shoes, that swap may make sense for new head coach Andy Reid. Kansas City also might be intrigued by the prospect of Joeckel at left tackle and Albert at guard — the Chiefs need to address their interior line, too, now that guard Ryan Lilja has decided to retire.

Unfortunately for Reid and the Chiefs, the top of this year’s draft class does not have an obvious No. 1 pick — unlike the 2012 draft, where the Colts had their choice between Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III. Given Kansas City’s obvious needs (quarterback, receiver and linebacker, for starters), that lack of a clear superstar has to be even more frustrating.

Which is why Joeckel has a shot to go No. 1, should Albert hit free agency and a huge K.C. roster hole suddenly meshes with the available draft talent.

Even if Joeckel slides past the Chiefs, though, he will find no shortage of teams interested in his talent — so much so, in a few cases, that the rest of the top 5 (Jacksonville, Oakland, Philadelphia and Detroit) might be able to swing a draft-day trade contingent on Joeckel’s availability.

But any of that quartet also could make a case for Joeckel early. Both the Jaguars and Raiders had huge issues at right tackle; the Eagles struggled all over their line (save for Evan Mathis), and are still awaiting Jason Peters’ return from an Achilles injury; and the Lions might be shorthanded, even with 2012 first-rounder Riley Reiff in tow, if Jeff Backus retires and Gosder Cherilus leaves in free agency.

All those teams will have to wait to see what the Chiefs do as a 2013 draft opener. Given Joeckel’s potential as an NFL lineman and the lack of elite prospects, a match could be made at No. 1 overall.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:24 AM   #151
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:26 AM   #152
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i've been reading this thread:

http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/sh...=22519&page=18

and i'm losing my ****ing mind
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:26 AM   #153
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Geno Smith has GOT to wow everyone in the coming months.

It must happen. I want the Chiefs to believe that he is the consensus #1 pick.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:27 AM   #154
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whatever helps you sleep at night
It doesn't help me sleep at night.

Wilson is a legit top 10 prospect. And Barkley is just behind that. If we could come out of the draft with one of them, I don't care who else we pick.

But that's why I said "if by some miracle" because I think our ONLY chance of getting one of those 2 guys is to TAKE THEM AT 1-1.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:34 AM   #155
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Honestly, I'd be surprised if Reid and Co. took a LT #1.

Reid KNOWS he needs a QB and it is not on the roster.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:35 AM   #156
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It's not a bad place to me, IMO.

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:45 AM   #157
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Listening to Fescoe on my way in and it's a foregone conclusion to them that KC won't/shouldn't draft a QB until the 2-3 rounds and Oline is the way to go at 1. Fescoe even passively homered Cassel talking about him getting a long look from Reid to compete with the 2 round QB we draft.

Thankfully, I have a bunch of albums from 2012 that need more playing time to keep me busy until April.
If they even trot Cassel out there to compete for the QB spot, the honeymoon will be over for Reid and the rest of the new regime before they even hit the sheets.

Not a wise idea.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:47 AM   #158
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I cannot fathom the thought of letting a quality LT go in order to turn around a burn the 1st overall pick on his replacement.

That would be the move of a losing franchise.
You mean similar to letting Brandon Carr go, then signing Stanford Routt, and then cutting him?
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If they even trot Cassel out there to compete for the QB spot, the honeymoon will be over for Reid and the rest of the new regime before they even hit the sheets.

Not a wise idea.
I'm confident Reid isn't that stupid, it's just listening to fans/media trying to justify it in their minds that is driving me insane. I need some baseball talk to flair up if I'm going to be able to listen to KC radio.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:49 AM   #160
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If they even trot Cassel out there to compete for the QB spot, the honeymoon will be over for Reid and the rest of the new regime before they even hit the sheets.

Not a wise idea.
Just like everyone $3it their pants because Pioli wasn't gone day 1 we have this.

He's done.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:50 AM   #161
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We might as well get used to hearing "Luke Joekel" and "KC shouldn't even think about QB at 1" because it's pretty much guaranteed that the moron analysts are throwing that shit out there.

ESPN should tell Kiper to take this draft off already. He lost any ounce of respect he had when he was pumping Te'o to us. Seriously, a ****ing draft "expert" should NEVER think that a ****ing ILB will go at #1. NEVER.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:51 AM   #162
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We might as well get used to hearing "Luke Joekel" and "KC shouldn't even think about QB at 1" because it's pretty much guaranteed that the moron analysts are throwing that shit out there.

ESPN should tell Kiper to take this draft off already. He lost any ounce of respect he had when he was pumping Te'o to us. Seriously, a ****ing draft "expert" should NEVER think that a ****ing ILB will go at #1. NEVER.
Just stop listening to/reading anything this idiot has to say. He's being paid to pimp these players.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:23 AM   #163
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i'm done if they draft a LT

It would almost be worth it to get rid of some of you drama queens.

How many times recently have you said "I'll be done"? How many times have you actually been done?
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Luke will be taken number 1.

But not by the Chiefs.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:27 AM   #165
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Just like everyone $3it their pants because ***** wasn't gone day 1 we have this.

He's done.
Trust me, I agree. There were three people that had to go this offseason to make everything right between Clark/Chiefs and the fans. Two have left the building. One to go. Just not sure what the right time frame money wise is for Gus to head down I-70, but as soon as that day arrives he needs to go.
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