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Old 01-09-2013, 09:39 PM  
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***RYAN NASSIB***

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Prospect: Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse Orange
Height: 6’2
Weight: 228 lbs.
Grade: 6.9 (Grading Scale)

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Athleticism:
+Underrated as an athlete, has the ability to tuck the ball and pick up first downs or get into the endzone
+Thick build, he can take a hit and get back up
+Moves well in the pocket, is able to side step and climb the pocket to avoid the pass rush
+Balanced in his movements, though he does not always reset his feet when trying to make a throw
-Listed at 6’2, and will need to measure out at that height for fear of dealing with the dreaded height questions that have plagued so many QB’s

Arm Talent:
+Has a very strong arm, can make any throw that a team needs him to
+Puts enough pace on the ball to push the ball to the boundary side outside the hash
+Can fit the ball into tight spaces due to his arm strength, can pick zone coverage when given the time
+Release is compact and quick, though it doesn’t always come from the same arm slot
+Will change his arm slot to fit the ball into a passing lane, this costs him little to no arm strength
-At times puts too much faith into his arm and will try and throw the ball through the defense rather than take the easy check down
-Only knows how to throw one type of pass and that’s the fast ball

Pocket Presence:
+Is more than willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit in order to deliver a pass
+Rarely drops his eye level when manuevering inside the pocket
+Good footwork to quicly move away from pressure
+Has experience dropping back from under center, working out of 3, 5, and 7 step drops
+Does well to sell the play-action fake coming away from center and turning his back to the defense

Command of Offense:
+Spent three years working under Doug Marrone and running an under center pro style offense
+Is able to get CB’s to bite on pump fakes and will look safeties off his read
+Unquestioned leader in the huddle, is one of the toughest players on the team and leads by example
+Is more than willing to put the entire offense on his shoulders
-Still developing the feel for when to check down or just throw the ball away, still believe his arm can make any play happen
-Locks on to primary read and will not progress fast enough

Overview:
No senior QB showed me more this season than Ryan Nassib, his growth and command of this team is the illustration of a what a true field general is. Nassib was a guy I wasn’t completely sold on coming into his senior year but he showed me enough tell me that he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

He needs to go to a team that has a strong offensive coordinator and QB coach who can help continue his development and help him smooth out some of his rougher edges. Nassib needs to continue to learn how to go through progressions and work on identifying the defense pre-snap so he knows what to do with the ball post-snap.

In the end Nassib gives you a QB with that classic gun slinger mentality. He’s going to make some throws that are going to put you in a position to win a game and he’s going to make some throws that could cost you a game. Up until this year you never knew which one of those throws you were going to get on any given drop back but now he’s taken that next step further and seems destined to become a starter in the NFL one day.

I’d put Nassib’s stock somewhere in the Round 2 to 3 range right now, but with the way QB’s are valued he could find himself closer to pick 32 than to pick 64.

Scouting Notes

Ryan Nassib v. Northwestern
-good size for position
-shows a clean, quick release
-hits tight end over the middle, shows nice zip
-throws on the run to the right, delivers a nice ball for big gain
-looked over his available WR to the left, delivers a strike

Ryan Nassib v. USC
- 3rd and Short- his reads are covered and backside pressure comes, runs out of the pocket, throws the ball as he is being hit right to a USC defender – Really poor decision
– Rolls out to his right has WR wide open, but doesn’t reset and misses the target high – Not a good start
– Three step drop, needs to get rid of ball, but he pump fakes and gets sacked
– Has little to no touch on short/intermediate passes, winds up like an outfielder throwing the ball and throws it as hard as he can

Ryan Nassib v. Rutgers
-Great level throw over linebackers, delivering high with velocity
-Can hold the ball too long when initial read struggles to get open
-Over-trusts first read a little long at times, needs to progress by reading DBs
-Anticipates receiver routes/breaks very well, high velocity
-Showcasing fantastic arm strength consistently
-Better than usual velocity control in the middle of the field
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:12 AM   #16
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I can't even comprehend how there is any other option besides Geno Smith #1 overall.
Geno Smith at 1.
Tyler Wilson at 1.
Ryan Nassib at 2 or late 1.

Those are the options.
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:50 AM   #17
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The same site/network has Geno Smith graded at 7.7 (which is top 10 at his position in their system).

That's a higher grade than they gave Sam Bradford. Only Andrew Luck, Robbert Griffin and Matthew Stafford have gotten better grades from them, from what I saw the other day when I was poking around over there.
Matt Barkley has the same grade at 7.7
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:02 AM   #18
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:06 AM   #19
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Dude, seriously.

I know you hate black QB's and shit, but you got to stop.

Geno is really freaking good.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:16 AM   #20
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I can't even comprehend how there is any other option besides Geno Smith #1 overall.
Because there are Peyton Mannings and then there are Ryan Leafs.

Donovan McNabb and Tim Couch

JaMarcus Russell and Tom Brady

Nobody has a crystal ball and you can think you know as much as you like, but you truly don't know. It's a 50/50 success rate for the #1 guy overall to try to come in and be a successful Franchise QB in the NFL.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try, I'm just saying there are no sure things. I just don't get how people get so angry and lodge personal attacks towards others if they don't agree with them on a player who is yet to play a single down in the NFL. See this site and Jimmy Clausen 2010.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:17 AM   #21
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What's so hard for fans to figure out that the best available QB is going be sitting there for us to pick with our #1 pick of the draft?

We earned that pick by sucking with shit QB play. Now we got an opportunity to change our fortune like other worse teams have done with picking the best QB with the top pick getting a QB. The best one available. We don't have to risk nothing to get him. If you don't want to be back in this situation any time soon then pick the best QB of the draft with our top pick.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:23 AM   #22
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Could probably trade the #1 pick with the Syracuse Bills @ #8 if you convince them you are taking this guy.

Get a few more picks and cross your fingers Geno is still there, or move back up and get him if you get nervous.
So you would risk that and have the Raiders take Geno Smith?

**** that. They may have got burnt by Jfat Russell but they could score big time with Geno Smith and torch our asses with him for the next decade.
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Old 01-10-2013, 01:26 AM   #23
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The first time EVER we get the #1 pick.

We haven't drafted a QB in the first round in 30 years

We can't still be scared to take one.

Geno Smith is awesome.

It must be him.

There is no other way.
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I'll post a complete Nassib and geno breakdown the upcoming monday.
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I'll post a complete Nassib and geno breakdown the upcoming monday.
Post the Pinstripe Bowl in it's entirety.
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It's bad enough that the raiders are sitting pretty to take Barkley or Wilson with there pick 3rd in the draft, but if we pass up on the top QB of the three and trade back we are just ****ing ourselves for future years to come.


I do predict the raiders take Matt Barkley.
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Post the Pinstripe Bowl in it's entirety.
I think I recorded it, so I might be able to upload it to my comp and break down the play, hots/audibles/protection and coverages. Now, this might take a bit more time and won't be ready on monday probably but it will be significantly more in-depth (for that game)
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Because there are Peyton Mannings and then there are Ryan Leafs.

Donovan McNabb and Tim Couch

JaMarcus Russell and Tom Brady

Nobody has a crystal ball and you can think you know as much as you like, but you truly don't know. It's a 50/50 success rate for the #1 guy overall to try to come in and be a successful Franchise QB in the NFL.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't try, I'm just saying there are no sure things. I just don't get how people get so angry and lodge personal attacks towards others if they don't agree with them on a player who is yet to play a single down in the NFL. See this site and Jimmy Clausen 2010.
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FTW, not a huge fan...but after the comments the walrus made on Monday...you best be open to the possibility.
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